Thanks for this explaination. I have got the timed out message a few times but not many. Tap Tap See is the most used app on my phone. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dmitriy To: VIPhone Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 2:21 PM Subject: Re: Tat Tap See
Neal, When you get a response, "Image Timed Out" it means that either we're over capacity or that your connection dropped after the image got sent out. We are working on improving our system in order to limit the amount of times images time out. You can always resend the image if your initial reading didn't come back to you. I hope this answers your question. Best Regards, Dmitriy On Apr 21, 9:29 pm, "Neal Ewers" <neal.ew...@ravenswood.org> wrote: > Hi Dmitriy, I am sorry I miss-spoke about not using crowd sourcing, and I am > very glad to have the correct information. It would appear that lots of > people still feel they need to tell me that I should listen to a podcast > Alan informed me of hours ago. Thanks to Alan, and Jonathan for the help, > and thanks to other assorted people. One way to cut down on traffic on this > list is to discover that a question has already been answered multiple times > and to not assume that the questioner needs to be reminded over and over > again. Believe me, it's not that I mind being wrong, I just see wasted > resources when the same question has to be answered multiple times. > > I do have one question for you. > > What causes the sending of an image to time out? Is it that the image is > unrecognizable, or is it that the image never arrives at the destination. > > Thanks for your answer. I will be much wiser now in explaining how this app > works when I do my demo of numerous apps. > > Thanks again for writing and for making this amazing app available. > > Neal > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Dmitriy > Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 1:23 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Tat Tap See > > Hello Neal, > > TapTapSee does in fact use a combination of a database algorithm and human > crowdsourcing. The image is first sent out to our database, if it is not > able to recognize it then it is sent out to crowdsourcing. > > TapTapSee, as mentioned, can take up to five images at a time and will > identify them in order they are received. The images then get deleted, they > are not stored on the user's device. Therefore, there's no need to look for > a clear button. The repeat button helps a user repeat the last identified > result, in case it was missed. The app takes a few seconds to identify an > image. Thus, once an picture is taken, the user should wait a moment for it > to be recognized and for the identification to be read back to the user. > > I hope the answers I provided help with some of the questions in this > thread. Please feel free to ask anything else that you'd like clarification > on. > > NOTE: My name is Dmitriy and I work for the company that has created > TapTapSee. You can always ask us questions via Twitter, @TapTapSee > <http://Twitter.com/TapTapSee> or by sending us an email to > Contact[at]TapTapSeeApp[dot]com. > > Best Regards, > > Dmitriy > > On Sunday, April 21, 2013 11:08:50 AM UTC-7, Neal Ewers wrote: > > Hi Jonathan, I knew VizWiz did ask a human, but I didn't know that tap tap > see did. According to RNIB, "It compares your photo with a large database > online to work out what it is." > > I can find nothing about this using a human. I know VizWiz does because you > actually send your request to a real person. Can you give me a source for > how Tap Tap See uses human intervention? I ask because I am doing a > presentation on iPhone apps in a few days and I don't want to give them my > incorrect information if it needs to be corrected. > > Thanks much. > > Have a nice day down under. > > Neal > > From: <javascript:> vip...@googlegroups.com [mailto: <javascript:> > vip...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen > Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 1:16 AM > To: <javascript:> vip...@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Tat Tap See > > Hi Neal, TapTapSee employs two techniques. It uses an object recognition > database first. If it can't get a result, then it will try crowd sourcing, > that is to say, asking a human. > > Jonathan > > On 21/04/2013, at 3:19 PM, Neal Ewers <neal....@ravenswood.org <javascript:> > > > wrote: > > Hi Tap Tap see is never routed to a person. > > Neal > > From: <javascript:> viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto: <javascript:> vip...@ > <http://googlegroups.com/> googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Frank > Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 10:15 PM > To: <javascript:> viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Tat Tap See > > Does anyone know how the Crowd sourcing works with Tap Tap See? Does taking > too many pictures overload the system? If the system doesn't recognize an > object, is it always routed to a person? If so, I will be much more > judicious on the number of objects I ask TTS to identify. > > Tom Frank > > <javascript:> vermont...@gmail.com > > On Apr 20, 2013, at 5:45 PM, "Neal Ewers" < <javascript:> > > neal.ew...@ravenswood.org> wrote: > > Patti, This app cycles through 5 pictures which it then deletes. This is why > you will hear it say something like picture 3 of 5. It gets to 5 and starts > all over again, so not to worry. > > My guess is that there are two issues here. One, you may not have held the > camera in the right place or maybe too close or to far away. Second, it will > definitely depend on the light the camera sees. I can have it look at the > same object in different times of day and it will say slightly different > things. It does time out if it cannot see the picture or if it doesn't know > what it is. I would suggest practicing with this in your home where you know > various objects are located and see if you can come up with some strategies > of working with the camera. This might help you when you are in other > locations. > > I hope this helps. > > Neal > > From: <javascript:> viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto: <javascript:> vip...@ > <http://googlegroups.com/> googlegroups.com] On Behalf OfPatti Johnson > Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 3:50 PM > To: <javascript:> viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Tat Tap See > > Hey yall. I went to the store today with a friend and while she was off > looking for something else, I got out my phone and opened up the Tap Tap See > app to see what happened with it. > > I was in the pet aisle because I had just got a bag of cat litter. > > so, I opened up the app and it said when I took the first picture, that it > was showing a bag of Meow Mix cat food. > > "Cool" I thought, so I tried it again, and none of the other pictures I took > worked. Either they timed out or they were blurry. > > Do I need to delete each picture I take before I take a new one, I just > couldn't figure out why I got those responses after that first picture. > > I didn't think I was holding the phone any differently. > > Just wondered, I could have a lot of fun with this app if I knew what I was > doing wrong. > > Thanks, > > Patti > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > <http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/>http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to <javascript:> > viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to <javascript:> > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > <http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en>http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to <javascript:> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit <https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out>https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > <http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/>http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to <javascript:> > viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to <javascript:> > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > <http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en>http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to <javascript:> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit <https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out>https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > <http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/>http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to <javascript:> > viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to <javascript:> > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > <http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en>http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to <javascript:> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit <https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out>https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > <http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/>http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to <javascript:> > viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to <javascript:> > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > <http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en>http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to ... > > read more ยป -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. 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