I knew the phone could handle it and that most of my other devices could handle 
it but on those rare
occasions when I have to put something on CD for someone (surprise it still 
happens) I wanted them
to have as painless an experience as possible.  Have they integrated M4A 
support into CD players
these days?



Ray T. Mahorney
WA4WGA


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
David Chittenden
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 06:59
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: M4A

Hello Ray,

When Apple started iPod and the iTunes music store, the music industry still 
had a strangle-hold on
digital music distribution. iTunes was one of the first companies to get the 
music industry to
cooperate in digital music downloading. At that time, the record industry was 
still focused on
everyone needing to purchase CDs of music. Apple's deal was that Apple would 
strictly regulate where
the music could be played (DRM). After a couple years, the music industry 
started allowing Apple to
sell non-DRM music files.

As for iPods, the agreement was, and probably still is, iTunes would strictly 
manage what the iPod
(iPhone and iPad included) music player can play. This has not changed. 
Therefore, you can only play
music using the iOS built-in music player, which you have loaded through iTunes 
on a computer, or
through the iTunes Store App on your iPhone. It should be noted that iTunes 
Music Match permits up
to 25,000 songs which were not purchased through iTunes, to be placed on your 
iPhone through the
phone's iTunes Store App. Music Match costs $25 per year.

There are, of course, many other options. Several apps in the App Store play 
all of the music file
types which are supported on the iPhone. These apps usually can even access 
your music which was
loaded on your iPhone via iTunes. They cannot place music into the iPhone / 
iPod music player songs
list because this would violate Apple's agreements with the music industry. 
Note: I use music
industry as a catch-all phrase to refer to the various record companies.

The iPhone can play the m4a music format. It does not need to be converted. The 
only major music
file type I know of that iPhone native music player cannot play is wma (Windows 
Media) file format.
I do not know why, but suspect this is either political between MS and Apple, 
or MS requires a
licensing fee that Apple refuses to pay.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 01/05/2013, at 16:36, "Ray T. Mahorney" <mahorney....@googlemail.com> wrote:

> After making progress with 911 scanner and tune in radio, I gave in to my 
> curiosity about
> downloading music.  Found an album and downloaded it through the phone.  
> Oops! Maybe?  Looking at
> the extensions they were M4A. Was there something I missed and would they 
> have downloaded as MP3
had
> I downloaded them through the craptop? Thinking about it this may be one 
> where apple arbitrarily
> decided "we're apple and we know what's best for you." So, How can they be 
> converted with as
little
> loss of fidelity as possible?  The subjective element of that question is do 
> they need to be?
> 
> 
> Ray T. Mahorney
> WA4WGA
> 
> 
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