James, er, excuse me, Navigon offers the same level of access, and you base that on what?
I have both, and therefore I am basing this on factual knowledge, Navigon which I used for years is not on the same level as Seeing Eye in terms of accessibility to O/M information, they are not even in the same league. Navigon's buttons are labelled sure, and I can use it to get me from A to B, but with no intersection data, no POI read aloud data, no intersections I pass by on the route data and no 4 Square integration. Seeing Eye uses 3 sources, two of which are free sources the third NavTeq is not and is a paid solution. I also fail to see why people believe Navigon is giving them map updates for free, Navigon App updates are free, but, that is the app alone and not the map data. This is an additional on top in app purchase. If you just download the free updates to Navigon all you are getting is the app itself updated and not the map data. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an Apple iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 3 Jul 2013, at 13:41, James Homuth <ja...@the-jdh.com> wrote: > Funny. I figured she just didn't want to be ripped off. As has been said on > here and elsewhere. Navigon is a one-time payment, and is pretty much > exactly as accessible as the Seeing Eye app. They also don't charge you for > updates. The Trecker, while more expensive, also doesn't charge you for map > updates. And if we're being honest, the Seeing Eye app doesn't need to pay > for its access to, let's say, foursquare information, which is where it > pulls its points of interest from. So again, what are you paying for for > $70/year? > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Kevin Barry > Sent: July 3, 2013 6:17 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: The Seeing Eye app, greed, greed, greed! > > She expects everything for nothing. > > At 10:04 PM 7/2/2013, you wrote: >> Do you expect them to lose money on this app? They have to pay a fee in >> order to use the maps that this app utilizes. The problem is that there >> are not millions of people who are going to buy this app, only a few >> thousand, and the cost of using those maps must be spread out through >> the purchasers. >> I bought a human rare ware Trekker 7 years ago that did little more >> than this app. It cost me fifteen hundred dollars. >> If you do the math, after subscribing to this app and paying the taxes, >> it works out to less than twenty two cents a day. That is a small price >> to pay for something that is customized for a specific portion of the >> population. >> >> Chuck (mobile) >> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores. >> >> On Jul 2, 2013, at 6:46 PM, Mary Anne Lynskey <marlyn...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I think it's a disgrace and a total rip off. Not even a trial? >> Even so, it's too expensive and nothing but outright greediness. >> I've already written this as a rating for the app, adding that it's >> nothing less than a case of total greed, greed, greed, taking >> advantage of blind people and stealing money out of their pockets. >> Sixty-nine bucks a year, that is outrageous! What a cocky attitude for >> Sendero to adopt. who do they think they are anyway? I couldn't even >> rate it zero stars and I begrudgingly gave them one just to speak my mind. >>> >>> Mary Anne Lynskey >>> >>> >>> On 7/2/2013 2:28 PM, Chuck Dean wrote: >>>> At this time, they are only offering a one year, and a >> three-year subscription. >>>> >>>> Chuck (mobile) >>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores. >>>> >>>> On Jul 2, 2013, at 11:25 AM, dan Thompson <dthomps...@mchsi.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi chuck, can one buy a lifetime membership or do we have to >> keep paying for >>>>> rights to use the app? >>>>> >>>>> To receive emails regarding Dan's daily Tips or the Daily HotSpot >>>>> Devotional, send an email to dthomps...@mchsi.com with "subscribe >>>>> Dan's Tips" or "subscribe Hotspot Devotional" in the >> subjectline. of your truth >>>>> and live according to your word". >>>>> >>>>> Verse of the Week >>>>> Proverbs 18:10 >>>>> The name of the LORD is a strong tower; the righteous man runs >> into it and >>>>> is safe. (ESV) >>>>> >>>>> Prayer: "O gracious and Holy Father, give us wisdom to perceive >>>>> you, diligence to seek you, patience to wait for you, eyes to >>>>> behold >> you, a heart >>>>> to meditate upon you, and a life to proclaim you; through the >> power of the >>>>> Spirit of Jesus Christ our Lord." (Prayer of Saint Benedict of >>>>> Nursia, >>>>> 480-547 AD) >>>>> Psalm 23:1-6 >>>>> 1 The LORD is my shepherd, I shall not want; >>>>> 2 he makes me lie down in green pastures. He leads me beside >> still waters; >>>>> 3 he restores my soul. He leads me in paths of righteousness >> for his name's >>>>> sake. >>>>> 4 Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I >>>>> fear no evil; for you are with me; your rod and your staff, they >>>>> comfort me. >>>>> 5 You prepare a table before me in the presence of my enemies; >> you anoint my >>>>> >>>>> head with oil, my cup overflows. >>>>> 6 Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my >> life; and I >>>>> shall >>>>> dwell in the house of the LORD for ever. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Psalm 19:8-11 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >>>>> Of Chuck Dean >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 1:07 PM >>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>> Subject: The Seeing Eye app, a quick test. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi all, I took the Seeing Eye GPS app for a quick walk around my >>>>> neighborhood to see how well it performed. I walked about one >> mile, and took >>>>> a different route back. It worked well, although like most GPS >>>>> apps it seemed to use a lot of battery, over twenty percent in the one > mile walk. >>>>> The interface of the app is simple and easy to understand. >>>>> Entering an address is made easy because the state and city you >>>>> are in are already entered, so only the address number and street >>>>> need to be entered. If you are going to another city, however, you >>>>> will need to change that field. I started by searching for a point >>>>> of intrest and starting a route. The app uses voice over for most >>>>> of the announcements, but does have >> another voice >>>>> that chimes in occasionally. The directions were clear and >> given with ample >>>>> lead time. As I approached intersections it would announce the >> street name >>>>> and the intersection type, I. E. Fore way, and the street >> direction. Also, >>>>> as I walked the app announced points of intrest as I passed by. >>>>> On the way back, I tried the route to home option, which opened >> a drop down >>>>> menu with various options including one that is poorly labeled. >> My wife told >>>>> me it said multi modal, which voice over didn't understand, so >> I relabeled >>>>> this button multi mode. >>>>> Over all I think this is a great start, but there are a few >> things I'd like >>>>> to see in the future. I'd like to see the ability to walk a >> virtual route, >>>>> as I was able to do with my human ware Trekker.. >>>>> After taxes the one year subscription cost over seventy five >>>>> dollars. It sounds like a lot, but considering my old Trekker was >>>>> fifteen hundred dollars seven years ago, it doesn't seem too > expensive. >>>>> If you figure it out, it comes to about twenty one cents a day >> for the one >>>>> year subscription. And only about thirteen cents a day with the >> three year >>>>> subscription, it seems reasonable to me. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Chuck (mobile) >>>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >> "VIPhone" Google >>>>> Group. >>>>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>>>> --- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "VIPhone" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>> send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >> "VIPhone" Google Group. >>>>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>>>> --- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >> Google Groups "VIPhone" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >> it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >> "VIPhone" Google Group. >>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the >> Google Groups "VIPhone" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >> send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >> Google Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. 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