So, David, have you used this technique successfully with the BARD app? I managed to scroll it to the letter G, but no further.
Richard -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 1:46 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Can't get the picker item to stay in focus when searching the bard website using the app I am sure people are getting tired of me always talking about how blind people are using the touchscreen. However, this is my research, so I am continually studying it. When using a long picker, what often happens is the finger stops moving so much vertically, so VO eventually interprets the touch location on the iDevice rather than the flick. For myself, if I slow down a little and pay close attention, I do not lose the picker, no matter how long it is. That said, it is frustrating and tiresome to maintain such careful focus. So, for long pickers, I do the following. After VO has focus on the picker, I do a double tap and hold (pass through gesture) near the edge of the display across from the direction I want to move the picker. For instance, if I want to move the picker up, I start just above the home button. After I hear the ascending tones which signal pass through, I slide my finger straight toward the opposite end of the display. I start somewhat slowly and accelerate my speed slowly as I slide my finger. With VO sounds on, one will hear the clicks as the picker turns. A neat thing about iOS (which was pointed out to me by a sighted friend) is that the pickers continue spinning for a little while after the finger leaves the display. The clicks go fast, then they slow down and stop. With practice, I have become fairly good at causing the picker to spin 60 to 70 choices per spin. Of course, one then needs to either touch the picker's actual location (which is usually at the bottom of the display, or flick away from and back onto the picker to see where it is now. After learning this last year, I have come to really enjoy pickers. Then again, I am a kid at heart and enjoy making the wheel spin. As to iOS 7, because the delay timing in VO has been decreased, one must be more precise about one's actions before touching the display. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone > On 8 Oct 2013, at 9:06, Richard Turner <richard.turne...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Mary and all, > I didn't mean to suggest it was a BARD bug, but a bug in general. > I was not at a place where I could resprond in detail, so just confirmed that it is a bug. > A bug that is most annoying and I hope lots of people let Apple Accessibility know it is bothersome so maybe it will get some attention. > Just my opinion, > > > Richard > (Sent from Richard's iPod Touch 5th gen) > >> On Oct 7, 2013, at 11:37 AM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Richard, >> I have seen this focus problem with pickers in places other than the Bard app, so I'm not sure it is a Bard issue. And this is under IOS 6, not 7. It seems quite common with pickers where you are doing an on line order and have to input your state using a picker. Buy.com comes to mind. By the time I get to O for Oregon, I generally have to re-access that picker several times, and the only way to do it is to double tap somewhere else in the form to force VO focus there, then go back to the picker and try again. 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