I'm actually not too interested in what others think about the price of
different apps. When the Seeing Eye GPS app came out, I really wasn't
too interested in all of the posts to the list saying they thought it
was too expensive and they wouldn't be buying it. IMHO, that's a
personal decision people have to make for themselves, and as with the
Seeing Eye app or TapTap See, I'll be making the decision as to whether
I think it's a service worth the price or not. Everyone is different,
has different needs and expectations and is in different economic
situations, so I'm not sure why people feel compelled to let everyone
else know if something is too expensive for them or not, and I'm not
sure why people care waht others are willing to spend on an app or service.
That being said, I don't think someone who thinks a product is worth
more than they're willing to spend is a free loader or is someone
looking for a hand out. If I buy Window Eyes instead of JAWS because I
think it's a better product for the money, does that make me a free
loader? When I buy a Nisson instead of a Honda, and I looking for a handout?
I don't recall any posts to this list saying TapTap See should be free
and that the developers of TapTap See shouldn't charge for their app or
their service. That would be asking for a freebie or a handout. Most
people have been asking for a flat price or a cheaper option, and since
I have no clue what it costs to have people identify the contents of a
picture, I have no idea if this cost will be covered by this model or
not. The developers of TapTap See have the right to set any price they
want. Maybe they'll just cover their costs or maybe they'll have a huge
markup. All I know is what I'm willing to pay for the service. The
developers will make enough money to continue developing TatTap See and
providing the service or they won't.
There are blind people, just like their are sighted people, who have a
sense of entitlement and want a handout. We should feel sorry for those
people and help them. We shouldn't confuse someone who's just deciding
if they can afford a particular service or app though with those people.
On 11/08/2013 06:04 PM, Joanne Chua wrote:
TapTapSee,
I have a proposal for you. Deal to all the complains about how much
you charge for either 8C per picture or less than 35C per day, what
about this as a proposal?
Charge by picture.
$5 for one picture, or $50 for 100 pictures.
These people, like the chinese said, "know how to eat, but does not
know the price of food, more so, the price of making the food".
Let those whiners have real reason to whine about, or shud them up.
Maybe better off, just shut off the service, cut the losts, and like
those whiners said, let them find the alternative that they so looking
for it.
On 09/11/2013, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't agree. Sure, there are some blind people who want things for
free, but that's true for sighted people as well. I'm sure I could check
out Twitter and find sighted people who don't want to pay for something,
but I wouldn't conclude from that that most sighted people want
freebies. Don't assume that the vocal minority speaks for the silent
majority.
Furthermore, Ive seen very few messages on this topic where people were
reluctant to pay anything at all. Most people seem to have a concern
over the price or it's subscription nature. I know plenty of sighted
people who refuse to or don't want to get into another monthly
subscription for something. Nevertheless, some people are assuming blind
people are asking for something for free and just adding to this noise
that most blind people just want handouts, even though the actual
messages to this list don't bear that out. I'd never take tweats out of
context and then use that to paint some broad strokes about most blind
people. That's prejudice and discrimination, and I've faced enough of
that in my lifetime that I'm not going to turn around and do that to
another blind person.
On 11/08/2013 05:14 PM, Andrea Love wrote:
Sorry but most times blind people do want freebies. You should check
out twitter if you don't believe me.
Andrea Love
----- Original Message ----- From: "David Chittenden"
<dchitten...@gmail.com>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 4:36 PM
Subject: Re: Tap TapSee
No, you do want a bit of a freebie. You want to pay a onetime fee for
a service that the company needs to pay monthly for. If you buy the
app and use it just one time, you are paying for your usage. If you
buy the app and use it over and over, and the company must pay costs
every time you use it, you switch from paying for the service to
receiving the service as a freebie.
It is like saying to my doctor, I will pay you $100 as a onetime fee.
You then provide me health check-ups for the rest of the time you are
in business.
As a counsellor, if you came into my office with that proposal, I
would tell you to go elsewhere. After the first couple visits, I am
paying for you to come see me. How long will I be able to stay in
business if I did business that way. Well, I would soon not be able to
make my office rent, so my business would close.
David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone
On 9 Nov 2013, at 10:12, alia robinson <ali...@gmail.com> wrote:
I don’t mind paying straight up for the app. that is fine. I do not
want to pay a monthly charge, or pay for 100 pictures. that is my
opinion, and other opinions are fine. What I strongly object to was
the original posters assertion that the people who are not wanting to
pay for it think blind people want “freebies” That is why I wrote in
because that is a spurious and insulting assumption. I stated my
reasons for not buying the app, and none of them had to do with
wanting freebies.
Alia
On Nov 8, 2013, at 1:06 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
Hi Alia,
Everybody is entitled to their opinion, but I for one am happy to
see that
by far the majority of people seem to understand that you can't run a
business by spending money and not have any come in. I own a retail
business
and if I sold all the product I have to buy and have in inventory
for what I
paid for it or for a 5% margin I would be out of business faster than a
puppydog can wag its tail.
Tap Tap See already stated that they will release an update within a
week
which addresses the issue of failed pictures. Will you some time take a
picture which comes back with a result but a useless result? Yes, most
likely, but on the bright side this may encourage all of us blind
folks to
ask sighted friends or family members to help us develop our picture
taking
skills.
I think it's totally cool to use other apps, many of us have been
doing this
all along, but I think if you learn to be good at taking pictures and
combine Tap Tap See with other apps then 100 pictures would last you at
least a couple of months maybe even 3, 4 or 5 months. This means you
may
spend anywhere from $4 to $2 or even a bit less per month on this
and if
easy and reliable recognition is important to you than I don't think
that is
an outrageous price.
Having said this it would be nice if Tap Tap See could offer an
unlimited
annual package at a subscription cost of say $99, then those who use
Tap Tap
See a lot have a way to get it for a slightly discounted price and
if you
were to watch for an iTunes Gift Card promo where you could buy 2
$50 cards
for $40 each, you would actually only pay $80 a year or $6.66 a
month for
unlimited use.
I think most people will buy the 100 picture pack and see how long
it will
take them to use it, I just don't use the app often enough to warrant
spending even $5 a month. But I will most definitely buy the 100
pictures
for $7.99 so I can continue to use the app and also to support the
company
and it is my guess the 100 pictures will last me close to half a
year; I do
really like Talking Goggles a lot of time because quite often I can
get a
result in video mode very quickly which is enough to tell me what I am
trying to identify.
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