Dear List,this is related to the discussion about using an Iphone without a sim card, to which the anser was yes you can use it without a sim card but you need one to activate it at the beginning. This makes sense as it is a phone after all but what about a wifi and cellular ipad? What if you like the idea of having cellular as an option for the future but to start off with you want to just use it on wifi. Do you need a dummy sim card to activate it? Also,can you use the same apple wireless keyboard for two or more Idevices and If fso how is this managed.
Many Thanks, Lee -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Aser Tolentino Sent: 11 November 2013 11:40 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Cc: <viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: When will Apple take this seriously? That's a fair bit of hyperbole: iOS4 only ever got up to 4.35 and no iOS since has gone beyond a variant of x.1. The way Apple does these things appears to have changed, much like Android in the last two years in the far less incremental introduction of features, as much for the psychological impact as attendant promotion of stability it seems. As flippant as it usually sounds, "it's a feature not a bug," often seems to be the correct interpretation of many of people's complaints. Human engineering is tricky, since it often involves shaping or accounting for people's behavior without them being aware of it. I for one have gotten quite used to iOS 7. And things people complain about like the change in the now playing info have actually come in handy. The approach of trying to figure out why things have changed I think is far preferable to the assumption that something has gone wrong. Of course, Apple explaining all of these things would be even better; but as the incomplete accessibility implementation on things like iBooks in OSX 10.9 tends to suggest, components of OS development are likely working down to the wire and so that is just another thing that members of the accessibility team think would be nice to have, like being able to see more of their families or get a full night's sleep. Sorry for the rant, but I hate to think how often something someone thought about and worked hard on prompts people to write in and loudly and indignantly proclaim it's broken and demand a fix, rather than simply, and maybe even politely, report their difficulty and express their preference for how things used to be. Respectfully, Aser Tolentino, Esq. > On Nov 11, 2013, at 2:52, "RobH." <bobs...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > I observe that we are still on 7.0.3, the bit of interest being the 0. I > think 4 got up to 4.5.something, can't remember what 6 got up to; 6.1.3, I > still have it; so no Major updates yet, 7.1 should clear all the > current issues, so long as they don't introduce new ones. > > RobH, waiting for the new version dust to settle. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wayne gmail " <ewaynebrum...@gmail.com> > To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 12:22 AM > Subject: RE: When will Apple take this seriously? > > > Or one can wait a while and IOS 7 will get better. IOS 6 started with > bugs and ended up butterflies because each update included fixes and > improvements. I'll bet that was true of the $4,000 Android phone as well. > After all it depends on the Android operating system which is > relatively new to accessibility and shows it. > > I can easily recall picking up the phone, dialing the operator, and > telling her the long distance number I wanted to reach and waiting > while she connected me. We tended to hold our analog watches where we > could see them because the long distance charges per minute could > quickly mount into serious money. For me, I think IOS 7 is really great<smile>! > > Regards, > Wayne > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of David Chittenden > Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 5:49 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: When will Apple take this seriously? > > Ok, go to American Printing House for the Blind, www.aph.org and check > out their braille android phone. I believe the cost is around $4000. > It is a phone specifically developed for the blind. It's specific > functions work well for the blind. You have your wish answered. Enjoy > your $4000 Android phone. > > David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA > Email: dchitten...@gmail.com > Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 11 Nov 2013, at 1:40, sen...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> This is very frustrating. Hordes of emails have circulated with the >> many > shortcomings of IOS7. Many bugss and shortcomings that have appeared > in ver > 7 that were not in IOS6. >> It becomes very frustrating when even the basic phone functions are > compromised. >> 1. Ending calls is a pain. Countless times I thought I had ended the >> call > but it was active. This has lead to embarrassing situations and also a > drain on my wallet due to large long distance call charges. >> 2. When I get phone numbers in a text message, I should be able to >> call or > message or store the number with a tap. No! I could do it with my 6 > year old Nokia better. >> 3. Entering data in a web form has become a nightmare. With my >> previous > phones running Talks I could do much better. I pay 10 times to get a > iphone and guess what? I can do less with it! Very frustrating. >> This list could go on and on. . . . New models will launch, new IOS > versions will roll out. . . But the shortcomings and bugs will stick > with us. Technology for the sake of technology. But no technology for > the visually challenged. Wish someone would charge more but make a > phone that works. 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