Well that's a matter of opinion. I'm finished with this thread now, so have a nice weekend.
DJ -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 3:15 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Eyes-Free Text Input on iOS Wow, either I've been asleep at the wheel or this is a bit of an exaggeration. I've seen some people question the need for a new app, as always happens on this list whenever someone introduces a new app designed for the blind, but I can't say that I've seen anything close to people attacking this app like a pack of mad dogs. Remember there are something like 1500 members on this list, so if two or three people point out that there are already a few possibly similar apps out there then this does not make an attack like a pack of mad dogs. I too agree with Sieghard. There are literally thousands of calendar apps in the iTunes Store. I'm sure some are better than others and there's a lot of similarity between many of them, but with millions of iDevices out there, some of these apps are going to appeal to some users and others to other users. I don't see any reason why you can't have the same situation with braille input apps. In my experience, none of the braille input apps out there are perfect, and who's to say someone can't come up with a better idea than what's already out there? On 04/24/2014 10:18 AM, DJ wrote: > I agree here. I've been watching as people attacked like a pack of mad > dogs. This would make me think more than twice about developing any > apps for the blind or promoting such apps for fear of a very negative > experience as this. > > DJ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 23, 2014 11:25 AM > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* RE: Eyes-Free Text Input on iOS > > I have been following this thread with interest and curiocity. While I > can read braille, I have hand injuries which prevent me from using any > app which uses braille input, however, I find it strange how Ryan's > proposal seems to be received in a somewhat negative way. Yes, there are > already 2 or maybe 3 such apps out there, but why not support what Ryan > and his team are doing and then judging whether their app is good or > not. Considering how many audio recorder, notetaking, navigation/GPS > apps are out there (and these are just 3 areas, I could name many more) > what is wrong with having alternatives? Maybe Ryan and his team are > going to release an app which is just going to blow all the others out > of the water, maybe it's more or less the same and maybe it's a total > flop; but to point out that he should have done his research as there > are already 2 apps out there and speculating that it probably won't be > very good because it's done by a bunch of students instead of a > programmer with 30-year experience I find strange. Anyhow, while this > programmer may have written code on an early DOS machine or maybe a > Commodore, he or she certainly doesn't have 30 years experience with > writing iOS apps since it's only been out for 7 years.Some kid who > started writing apps at 15 would now be more or less ready to graduate > university at 22 and could have written iOS apps for as long as iOS is > around. Anybody who wants to know about the app and find out how it > differs or is going to differ from MBraille could just sign up for the > testing since I assume the app is not completely done and ready for > prime time in which case they could have just released it informing the > Viphone community of its existence. > > Anyhow, just some thoughts and I do hope Ryan finds some people who will > participate in a constructive way and I wish him luck. After all, > consider how you would like to be treated were you in his place doing > something like this as a university project. > > Regards, > > Sieghard > > *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *Alex Hall > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 23, 2014 6:53 AM > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: Eyes-Free Text Input on iOS > > I'd like to hear more about what this app does. As others have said, how > does it differ from something like MBraille? > > On Apr 23, 2014, at 3:44 AM, Chris Apple boy <christopher...@gmail.com > <mailto:christopher...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > BrailleTouch was developed by final year students and look now. It's > hardly been updated bar once or twice. MBraille however has been > designed by a programmer with over 30 years experience and is > constantly updated. > > Regards Chris > Clap along if you feel like happiness is the truth! > > On 23/04/2014 08:15, RobH. wrote: > > Consider looking in the app store for things like TypeInBraille, > mBraille, > BrailleTouch; and a few others. > > Tell us what else you can offer, then we might think about it > some more. > > We don't mind supporting students on their final year projects, > but it is > worth finding a gap in the market, as a significant part of that > module is > Research. > > RobH. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ryan Drapeau" <rdrape...@gmail.com > <mailto:rdrape...@gmail.com>> > To: <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> > Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2014 6:59 PM > Subject: Eyes-Free Text Input on iOS > > > Hello, > > My name is Ryan Drapeau and I'm working with the mobile > accessibility group > at the University of Washington. We are looking for volunteers > to give us > feedback on an iPhone app that we have been developing. In order > to help, > you must be proficient on iOS and you should also know Braille. > This can be > done remotely. > > The app is called Perkinput. Perkinput is a new way to enter > text on your > iPhone or iPad without using a keyboard. Perkinput is based on > the Braille > keyboard. After you enter something in the Perkinput app, you > can send that > text in an email, a text message, or simply copy the text and > paste it in > any other application. > > Let me know if you'd be interested in learning more about it or > feel free > to download it yourself on the iTunes Store: iOS > Store<http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/perkinput/id767748170> > > Best, > Ryan > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the > viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by > default. 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