Well, your statement that Google Maps is not accessible is subjective to say the least. I and many, many other blind indeviduals use it successfully and on a daily basis without dificulty. Perhaps you might share what parts of the app are not currently accessible to you?
DJ -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of todd patkus Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 1:06 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: just one question DJ, Actually, with my experience, Google is not alone for pre/downloading such; GPS does the same even on an iPhone by sighted, and it always takes a few minutes for it to accomplish the pre/downloading! I have seen that happen to many sighted. No difference! Even with Braille devices, Google does not work well. Not very accessible at all. That is just my observation. Todd > ----- Original Message ----- >From: "DJ" <grou...@gmail.com >To: <viphone@googlegroups.com >Date sent: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 12:43:59 -0400 >Subject: RE: just one question >Google Maps does preload your route into your device so you can actually >navigate while offline. The drawback to this is if you go offcourse you >will not have turn by turn nbavigation until you get back on course or >unless you go online and update the route. I've used Google maps for quite >some time very successfully both online and offline, and on trips as short >as two miles and as long as 600 miles. It worked wonderfully in both cases.. >One of the 600 mile trips was even tested while offline. I was very >impressed that there did not appear to be a change in the apps performance >regardless of whether I was online or not. >DJ >-----Original Message----- >From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >Of Victor Gouveia >Sent: Monday, June 09, 2014 11:46 PM >To: viphone@googlegroups.com >Subject: Re: just one question >Hi Alex, You may be right in the case of Blind Square, but I'm not sure >you're right about Google Maps, or Seeing Eye GPS though because this would >make the particular apps expensive to use, and therefore not at all viable >for the majority of the blind public. >I would think that only the GPS components use out and about features, and >not necessarily the map data, but I may be wrong. >-----Original Message----- >From: Alex Hall >Sent: Monday, June 09, 2014 11:39 PM >To: viphone@googlegroups.com >Subject: Re: just one question >That is true of many in-car systems, yes. The apps for iOS work differently, >though. Some do let you download map files ahead of time, such as Google >Maps, but others need a constant or semi-constant data connection, including >Blindsquare and (if I'm not mistaken) Seeing Eye GPS. >On Jun 9, 2014, at 11:34 PM, Victor Gouveia <victor.gouv...@rogers.com >wrote: >> Alex Said: >> Second, the iPad with an external receiver will do GPS, but most >> mapping/navigation apps need to pull map data from some server or other, >> necessitating a data connection. >> *** >> No, even standard GPS devices purchased for drivers don't pull map data >> from servers out and about, they are usually updated manually over the >> internet via a Wi-Fi connection, or, if you have a data connection, >> depending on how large the map update file is. >> Either way, the GPS receiver is just to ping off a satellite or tower to >> help the GPS locate you, the maps are a separate feature. >> Just thought I'd point that out. >> Victor Gouveia >> Vice-President >> Training Coordinator >> VIP Tech >> Tel: 1-888-640-6661 >> Fax: 1-888-640-6669 >> Home: victor.gouv...@rogers.com >> Work: viptrain...@rogers.com >> Limiting Disabilities with Limitless Possibilities >> -----Original Message----- From: Alex Hall >> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2014 11:15 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: just one question >> First, if you don't need the cellular option but you still want the >> portability, go for an iPod Touch. It has the power of an iPhone5 (well, >> slightly better actually) but is also wifi-only, while being the size of >> an iPhone instead of a larger iPad Mini or full iPad. >> Second, the iPad with an external receiver will do GPS, but most >> mapping/navigation apps need to pull map data from some server or other, >> necessitating a data connection. So, if phone calls, texting (not with >> iMessage), anywhere internet access for navigation and other apps, and GPS >> is your thing, do the iPhone. Otherwise, choose between the iPad and iPod >> Touch, depending on how much you want to spend and how large a device you >> want. Also remember that we have the iPad Mini in the mix. Good luck! >> <smile >> On Jun 9, 2014, at 10:13 PM, Victor Gouveia <victor.gouv...@rogers.com >> wrote: >>> Hi Peter, >>> I also think it would be worth noting that unless you get the iPad with >>> 3G support, the iPad doesn't make you pay a certain amount per month, as >>> it only works on Wi-Fi, and not a data connection through a carrier. >>> So, if you take this into account when doing the calculations... >>> an iPad and iPhone are roughly the same price, keep in mind that I'm >>> referring to the Wi-Fi version of the iPad, not the 3G version. >>> The costs are roughly the same, give or take a hundred bucks or so, but >>> when getting the iPhone, your carrier will charge you anywhere from 30 to >>> 50 dollars per month, so your paying 30 to 50 dollars per month in >>> addition to the iPhone's already inflated price. >>> Even if you get it on a contract, most carriers will insist you get the >>> iPhone on a 2 year contract, so you can expect to pay anywhere from 199 >>> to 350 for the phone, plus another 30 to 50 dollars per month for >>> twenty-four months, and you're looking at paying an extra 700 to 1200 >>> dollars on top of what you paid for the phone. >>> In addition to this, some carriers will charge you to unlock your phone >>> at the end of your contract, and this could cost you another 30 to 75 >>> dollars, at which point, you can now do what your iPad has done all >>> along. >>> In any case, if you're budget conscious, then the iPad would be the way >>> to go, at which point, if you want to use the iPad as a navigation >>> device, you'll have to spend a little more for the external GPS receiver, >>> but even then, it still comes out cheaper than the iPhone. >>> Keep in mind that the above are based on what I know about the major >>> carriers in Canada and the US, but I doubt the pricing is much different >>> in other areas. >>> Victor Gouveia >>> Vice-President >>> Training Coordinator >>> VIP Tech >>> Tel: 1-888-640-6661 >>> Fax: 1-888-640-s6669 >>> Home: victor.gouv...@rogers.com >>> Work: viptrain...@rogers.com >>> Limiting Disabilities with Limitless Possibilities >>> -----Original Message----- From: Alex Hall >>> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2014 5:54 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: just one question >>> This question comes up from time to time, so the archives will have a lot >>> of information. Basically, though, the pros of an iPad over an iPhone >>> are: >>> * better battery life >>> * better sound, sometimes, and that is rather subjective >>> * larger screen, for low-vision users using magnification >>> * larger screen, showing more content for apps and webpages, which can >>> sometimes be useful to the blind >>> That's all I can think of. Of course, the pros of the iPhone or iPod >>> Touch outweigh the pros of the larger iPad, at least for me, but each >>> person's situation is different. >>> On Jun 6, 2014, at 5:32 PM, Peter Logue <bouncingoffbutt...@gmail.com >>> wrote: >>>> Hi guys, >>>> Okay here's the question. If the Ipad and the Iphone both do exactly the >>>> same thing, only for the fact that the Iphone makes phone calls... why >>>> would >>>> anyone not choose the Iphone. >>>> I'm torn, but leaning to the Iphone, even though it has a contract. But >>>> dollar for dollar pound for pound. 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