HI Joseph,

While I thank you for your repeated posting, I would like to point out that 
Teresa's  posting focused on using the keyboard throughout the moving process. 
This, for me at least, is not something I had been familiar with so to me at 
least, her posting was quite unique, and I certainly appreciate her taking time 
to post that info.

The point here is that there is space here for all of us and for all styles of 
posting. Your post and Teresa's posting are both valuable in different ways and 
may help different listers in their differing styles of using their iDevices.

So I thank you both and will continue to encourage us all to be aware that 
there are all sorts of people here who use their devices in all sorts of ways 
which we ourselves may not. So there's room for many types of information and 
styles of description.

thanks again and do have a great day!

Cara
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On Jul 2, 2014, at 9:13 AM, Joseph FreeTech <joseph.freet...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Teresa,

Though your post is useful and well written, I wrote the very same type of 
tutorial just a week or two ago. <Smile>. It seems as though many of us are 
not using our time and this forum wisely if we're going to repeatedly post 
the same information. So far, it appears many are deleting messages without 
even quickly browsing through them for possibly useful information. If this 
is in fact what is happening, then the individuals doing this will miss out 
on great information as well as cluttering the list with redundant requests. 
Am I wrong?

If you're curious, here's what I wrote on the topic of using a Bluetooth 
keyboard to move apps between home pages as well as into folders... <Smile>.

For those interested in using an external Bluetooth keyboard to move apps, 
when lucky and all works as it should, here's what I'm doing to move my apps 
around:

1. My iDevice (iPod Touch 5th gen) is turned on and my Bluetooth keyboard is 
paired.
Note: for whatever reason, my Amazon Basics keyboard takes about 25 seconds 
to be recognized by iDevice Bluetooth. (Shrug).

2. I use the touch screen to navigate to Home screen 3 and place focus on 
the app I want to move.

3. I press the following command on the keyboard: VO+Shift+letter M. I get 
the message informing me that I'm moving X app.

4. I use 3-finger gesture on the touch screen to move from Home screen 3 to 
Home screen 1.
Note: sometimes this does not work, so I simply go to bottom of the screen 
and swipe up to move from page 3 to page 1, and this does seem to reliably 
do the job.

5. I move my app on top of the folder where I want to place the app, and I 
once again execute the following command: VO+Shift+letter M.

6. My iDevice and VoiceOver begin sounding off all kinds of bells and 
whistles while they do their thing, and when I no longer hear anything, I 
swipe to right a couple of times.

7. I press the Home button once on my iDevice to return screen back to 
normal.

8. I swipe over to the bottom of the list of apps, and sure enough the app I 
moved is there.

9. I execute the scrub gesture to close the folder, and I'm eventually 
informed that the app count has increased, which once again assures me the 
app has been moved.

10. All done moving app. <Smile>.

For those wanting to move an app from Home screen X to Home screen Y without 
accidentally creating an unwanted folder, try this...
1. My iDevice (iPod Touch 5th gen) is turned on and my Bluetooth keyboard is 
paired.

2. I use the touch screen to navigate to Home screen 3 and place focus on 
the app I want to move.

3. I press the following command on the keyboard: VO+Shift+letter M. I get 
the message informing me that I'm moving X app.

4. I use 3-finger gesture on the touch screen to move from Home screen 3 to 
Home screen 1.
Note: sometimes this does not work, so I simply go to bottom of the screen 
and swipe up to move from page 3 to page 1, and this does seem to reliably 
do the job.

5. Since the keyboard will not allow for placing an app between two apps 
like the touch interface allows, I simply move my app on top of the app 
where I want to position the app, and I once again execute the following 
command: VO+Shift+letter M.

6. I'm told a new folder will be created with X title.

7. I simply press Escape key once on the keyboard to cancel the folder 
creation process.

8. I swipe to the right a couple of times then press the Home button once to 
return the focus back to normal.

9. I touch the bottom left-hand corner of the screen then swipe to the left 
to access the very last app on the current Home screen.

10. If all went well the app will have been moved from Home screen 3 to Home 
screen 1 without extraneous folders having been created. (thumbs up)!

Joseph the free tech guy!

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Teresa Cochran" <batsfly...@me.com>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 8:39 AM
Subject: Here's How to Move Apps Into a Folder With a Bluetooth Keyboard


Hi, all,
I've done this several times reliably, so I'm going to outline it here, 
since there's been some discussion of it in recent threads.

Turn on VO sounds. This will make it easier to detect audio feedback while 
moving. Find the app you want to move. Press VO-shift-M. Voiceover will say 
"moving" and the name of the app. Use the arrow keys to move the app. VO 
will announce your position and say "is editing". Go to the page indicator. 
It's easiest to use the up and down arrow keys instead of option-arrows to 
move from page to page. I haven't been able to get the second method to work 
while in edit mode.

Once you get to a folder, simply press the VO-shift-M command again. VO will 
say "opening folder" and the name of the folder. Now your app should be 
nside the folder you've specified.

HtH,
Teresa

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