Yes, and I think they are missing the most obvious point here. If this app is so much better at scanning and faster than anything on the market than it wouldn't just be an app for the visually impaired. If it does everything they say so much better than our sighted friends would also be interested in a much better scanning application, but I'm betting that our sighted friends wouldn't even think twice about paying $99 for a scanning solution, so they are cutting off a large share of potential customers with this laughable pricing. I completely get that these apps developed for the blind have a limited customer base, but I find it laughable at the prices for apps made specifically for the blind compared to mainstream apps. Would love to know what percentage of iPhone users that aren't blind have even ever paid $20 for a single app. On Jul 8, 2014, at 2:52 PM, Devin Prater <r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> How would that be confusing? Do the programmers and marketing people think > we're that retarded? Oh my gosh, these companies are laughable and > unintelligent. > Devin Prater > r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com > > > > On Jul 8, 2014, at 9:48 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote: > >> I know where you are coming from, and certainly there are ways of (sort of) >> testing the app before making the purchase. What gets me is the attitude; >> they are asking for $100 up front, with little chance of a refund, yet >> plenty of models exist that would let users try before buying. Instead of >> adopting such a model, though, they first blame Apple for not offering an >> official app trial mechanism (see yesterday's tweet), then they say that >> adopting a freemium model of some kind would be confusing. This, despite the >> fact that plenty of apps, blind-specific or not, use freemium pricing to >> great success. Bottom line: they want a whole lot of money, but won't allow >> a trial even though doing so would be easy. They'd rather blame Apple for >> nothing at all, or claim it would be a lower-quality experience somehow. >> On Jul 8, 2014, at 10:16 AM, Les Kriegler <kriegle...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Alex, there is no doubt that having a demo for individuals to test would be >>> ideal. And if enough people push forward and put enough pressure on an FB, >>> perhaps it will happen. I also believe that wow a lot of us will not buy >>> this app the first comes out. A lot of people on this list will. We can ask >>> them to scan for certain things that we like to check out. Yes, it's not >>> the same as us doing it, but there are other ways to manage this. I just >>> don't think it's with getting that worked up over. After all, one of the >>> main reasons at this list is so beneficial is the fact that there are lots >>> of guinea pigs out there. There are a lot of people who will buy apps and >>> test them. We can learn from them. That's one of the main reasons I stay on >>> this list along with being able to hopefully assist others on occasion. It >>> wasn't for these facts. With all the extraneous messages that are passed >>> back-and-forth, I would've unsubscribed along time ago. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Jul 8, 2014, at 10:02 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I know there will be demos of it, but that isn't the same as making sure >>>> it works for each person. I mean, say it does great scanning pages, but >>>> chokes on envelopes? Most of my scanning is envelopes, but unless I can >>>> test that out ahead of time, I won't know that the app will not work for >>>> me as well as it did for the guy in the podcast. That's just an example; >>>> everyone has different use cases, requirements, and expectations, and I >>>> simply can't understand why the developers of this app refuse to adopt a >>>> simple model that would let each potential customer make sure the app is >>>> what they want and need before spending all that money. >>>> On Jul 8, 2014, at 9:57 AM, Les Kriegler <kriegle...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Alex, it's not as bleak as you portray. Someone on more than one >>>>> individual do a podcast and will get a good idea of how the app really >>>>> works. After all, nobody has to buy it the first day it comes out. Using >>>>> some patients and caution will yield good results in the end. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> On Jul 8, 2014, at 9:55 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Regarding an app trial, I think this is pretty clear. @KNFBReader sent >>>>>> the following tweet earlier today: >>>>>> >>>>>> @davetaylor2112 Thanks for the suggestion. We will not be creating a >>>>>> "freemium" app. This only causes confusion and lowers expectations. >>>>>> >>>>>> So there you have it. Cough up your hundred dollars based on others' >>>>>> experiences, or don't get the app; no trials for anyone. I personally >>>>>> find this to be ridiculous and a bad decision, but what do I know? >>>>>> On Jul 8, 2014, at 9:37 AM, Russ Kiehne <russ94...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm waiting to find out how it will work with my ipod touch 5th >>>>>>> generation. I have no plans on buying an iphone. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 7/7/2014 11:15 AM, AppleGourmet wrote: >>>>>>>> About five years ago, one of my patients had purchased the KNFB Reader >>>>>>>> with the Nokia phone for about $1250. He was really thrilled with his >>>>>>>> purchase and thought it was great value. He has been using it for the >>>>>>>> past five years and it's been working flawlessly! The results of the >>>>>>>> OCR have to be seen to be believed! I was shocked to hear that this >>>>>>>> app now sells for $99!! It's a steal! It's an outstanding >>>>>>>> application! Comparing it with other available OCR apps is like >>>>>>>> comparing chalk with cheese. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the viphone >>>>>>> list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. 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