I can now enter my passcode in both modes, though my overall accuracy is better 
in screen-away mode. To me, the difference between this method and a Perkins is 
like the difference between Braille on displays and on paper. They're 
different, but similar enough.

Teresa

"We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with 
the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks

> On Sep 26, 2014, at 10:45 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> Undeoubtedly, it's far different and takes getting used to. As you said, 
> though, it is often easier to be able to type out something in braille than 
> hook up a notetaker or display, and it certainly makes entering my passcode 
> easy. If possible, give it a try, long enough to really test it out and get 
> accustomed to how it works. It might not be for you, but the convenience is 
> definitely worth at least giving it a shot to see for sure.
>> On Sep 26, 2014, at 1:40 PM, Rose Combs <roseco...@q.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Maybe I am crazy, but as a user of a braille no taker, albeit an old one and 
>> a Perkins Brailler, I just cannot wrap my head around using an onscreen 
>> braille writing tool.  Sometimes it would be much wiser but, I have never 
>> tried it. 
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Sharonda Greenlaw
>> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 7:37 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Braille Input: What Helped me Figure it out
>>  
>> this is awesome information. Thanks! I am writing this in Braille
>> !
>> 
>> Sharonda
>> Sent from my mobile device; please excuse all mistakes 
>> 
>> On Sep 25, 2014, at 7:20 PM, Neal Ewers <neal.ew...@ravenswood.org> wrote:
>> 
>> That’s interesting that they give you both modes. It takes me back to the 
>> days when I used a slate and stylus and when you were writing, dots one, 
>> two, and three were on the right side. Of course, note takers and braille 
>> displays reversed this, but I find it interesting that you have both on the 
>> device.
>>  
>> Neal
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Sandy Finley
>> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 9:01 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Braille Inpput: What Helped me Figure it out
>>  
>> Nicki and others,
>>  
>> I don’t know if this will help you but here is a set of steps I have learned 
>> from  others that helped me with the braille input.
>>  
>> 1.       When you land in an edit field turn your rotor once to the right. 
>> The Braille keyboard is usually there because the Braille setting on your 
>> rotor follows the edit field around.
>>  
>> 2.      I find it useful  to use away mode. For some reason, when in table 
>> mode, dots 1, 2, 3 appear on the right so everything is backwards.
>>  
>> 3.      Once in a way mode, Do not calibrate just write.
>>  
>> Unfortunately, when trying to  use  contracted Braille the app does not echo 
>> characters. I like to have characters echoed at this point so I write in 
>> unconstructed Braille.
>>  
>> 4.      Flick once left to erase a character and once right for space.
>> 5.       
>> 6.      When done rotor once left or right, then you can use VO gestures 
>> again. HTH
>>  
>> Sandy
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