Thanks for all this, I'll go read some more about that.

I remember reading a book, a novel, but they were describing how an airport 
had to quote their bm pressure on the ground and their altitude to feed into 
the aircrafts device to give an accurate value before trying a landing, 
especially by instruments.

I don't know how far weather can effect pressure and how much pressure 
changes with altitude to see the scale of the issue.
How many millibars per hundred feet of altitude for example, I'm sure 20 or 
30 millibars of variability isn't unusual for weather.

RobH.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <siegh...@live.ca>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 6:34 PM
Subject: RE: Curious about the barometer in iPhone 6?


Hi Rob and Jan,

Altimeters both stand-alone units sold in climbing and outdoor stores as
well as those integrated in all of the better Garmin GPS units all use a
barometric sensor to give precise elevation readings. Any GPS as well as the
iPhone can give you elevation based on GPS information, but while this is
better now than it was years ago, it is still less accurate than elevation
information based on barometric pressure because of GPS signal time delays
and simply the problem with acquiring enough satellites for an accurate
calculation.

. Typically all one has to do with a barometric altimeter is set the
elevation at a known location, e.g. any airport would do because you can
simply ask the airport authorities or google what the elevation of any
particular airport is. Once set a barometric altimeter will give you
accurate readings as you go up or down in elevation based on air pressure.
This is the same principal as in scuba diving where you get very accurate
depth readings from your depth gauge based on water pressure, pressure at
sea level is 1 bar or approx. 14.5 pounds per square inch and this increases
by 1 bar or 14.5 pounds per square inch for every 33 feet you go down and
the depth gauge messures this pressure and gives your depth in return. A
relatively deep recreational dive of 110 feet means you are exposed to 4 Bar
or approx. 58 pounds per square inch of pressure. If you take an empty 2
Liter pop bottle down there with the cap screwed on tight it will be
squished flat.

You will have to recalibrate a barometric altimeter if there are significant
changes in air pressure due to weather conditions, e.g. a storm causes an
intense low pressure system.

If you want to learn more about this all you have to do is Google something
like "How does a barometric altimeter work" or "How ddo weather conditions
effect barometric altimeters" or "How to calibrate a barometric altimeter".


Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jan Kleinhans
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 12:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Curious about the barometer in iPhone 6?

Hi

Thanks for this.  It is interesting indeed.  I read the altitude thing in a
review of the iPhone 6 on the gsm arena website, and also did not quite get
it how that would help, so that's why I was wondering if the barometer was
usable for it real function via voice over?

Thanks all the same.

Jan

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "RobH." <bobs...@googlemail.com>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 9:00 AM
Subject: Re: Curious about the barometer in iPhone 6?


This is interesting, though don't see how it would help with
height/altitude.

Given the variability of air pressure relative to weather conditions, it
would hardly be accurate.  Even planes used to have to zero their altimeter
relative to prevailing conditions before they get a good or accurate fix.
Modern ones probably do better now.  And after all that, Siri can work that
out with GPS, too.

RobH. Disappointed, Siri gave me a lecture on what altitude was,  and didn't
tell me my position at all. Yet I have been, when using 6.1.4 or whatever
that was.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jan Kleinhans" <jhkleinh...@telkomsa.net>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 4:32 AM
Subject: Curious about the barometer in iPhone 6?


Hi

Has anybody that owns a iPhone 6 or 6+ looked at the barometer function of
the phone?  I am curious as to whether it can be used by users using voice
over?  I read somewhere that it is used mainly for elevation, but I am
interested in the weather functions of the barometer, meaning can one get a
reading in inches or milibars like a normal barometer used in weather
stations?

Regards

Jan Kleinhans

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