I don't think Microsoft ever got rid of Outlook Express. They just
renamed it to Windows Mail and then Windows Live Mail. The progression
from Outlook Express through Windows Mail and then onto Windows Live
Mail has been pretty incremental, and now you have a free email client
with a lot more features than you had in Outlook Express. Actually a
good example of why change is good and how you get more for your money
over tiem.
Microsoft had to solve a real problem with standard menus. How do you
get as many options on the screen and within as few mouse clicks as
possible while taking as little real estate away from the application as
possible. Ribbons was their solution. I'm not sure if it was the right
solution or not, but I don't hear too many sighted people complaining
about them any more, and I never had too much trouble with them myself.
Canonical, with Unity, is trying to solve the exact same problem with
their heads up display. You may not like ribbons, but they definitely
weren't a change just for the sake of change.
On 11/09/2014 12:22 PM, Charles Rivard wrote:
I do like iTunes 12, now that I can find out what's new in apps I am
about to upgrade. Although I do wish that the side bar be returned, I
can live without it.
My complaints about unnecessary changes, though, deal with issues such
as doing away with pull-down menus and replacing them with ribbon menus,
and doing away with perfectly good Email clients such as Outlook
Express, as well as changing the way that sounds are handled by an
operating system that make programs that you pay good money for, or even
free ones, no longer work. Games that blind gamers bought, that work
very well with XP no longer work with higher operating systems due to
the sound processing changes that were unnecessarily made. If it ain't
broke, quit fixing it to the point of being broken.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Neal Ewers" <neal.ew...@ravenswood.org>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2014 11:49 AM
Subject: RE: how to sync apps with iTunes 12: why change things that
worked like in itunes 11
As a matter of fact, many of my sighted friends much prefer iTunes 12
over iTunes 11. So, to say it does not work as well is not to consider
the number of people who like it better. And, in addition, as some have
pointed out, it works quite well. It's just different. One thing you can
be sure of. Change happens. I think people's arguments would be more
soundly based were iTunes 12 to be inaccessible to people who are blind.
But, it isn't.
Neal
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2014 8:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: how to sync apps with iTunes 12: why change things that
worked like in itunes 11
True, but iTunes 12 works. So do the follow ons to Windows XP. Change
doesn't automatically mean that it doesn't work or that it's unstable.
In fact, sometimes change is good and things actually improve over time.
On 11/09/2014 07:52 AM, Charles Rivard wrote:
Why change from something that works and remains stable to something
that doesn't and isn't? To me, to remain competitive, it must, first
of all, work.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Chaltain"
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To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2014 4:56 AM
Subject: Re: how to sync apps with iTunes 12: why change things that
worked like in itunes 11
IMHO, the phrase "change for changes sake" is one of those worn out
terms that people trot out when they don't like some change or don't
take the time to understand it. How many people who have used this
term with respect to iTunes 12 have Googled to find out why Apple made
the changes they did?
I also find it interesting how many people know more about software
development and marketing than Apple and Microsoft do. I can assure
you that these companies aren't making these changes just to keep
their developers busy and put out changes just to trick the customers
into thinking they're doing something and adding value. I'm also sure
they have more people looking at software trends, studying the market,
developing new technologies and doing product planning than all of the
amateur marketeers on this list. Furthermore, the future of these
companies depend on this forward thinking, whereas none of us on this
list have anything to lose if our opinions are off the mark.
Sure there are people out there who liked Windows XP and wish
Microsoft had never changed, but these people would be happy only
until Microsoft went out of business for not being able to remain
competitive and then they were forced to move to something else. I was
a happy Symbian user on Nokia, but I had to switch when that platform
was dropped because it was no longer competitive with IOS and Android.
I'm also sure there are or were some happy Blackberry users out there
who've had to or will have to find a new home. Sure there are some
things I miss about Symbian, but I wouldn't go back now that I've used
both IOS and Android.
I also just haven't found some of these changes to be as significant
as some people would make you think. I didn't even realize I'd updated
to iTunes 12 until I saw the discussions on this list. I was still
able to backup my iPhone and install IOS 8.. I even reset my iPhone
back to the factory settings, restored everything and resynced all of
my music and apps with iTunes 12. Ditto for Windows. I've always been
surprised how much Vista, Seven and now Eight, look like XP after
hearing all of the gnashing of teeth over how much has changed. Sure
there's been a learning curve, but I've never had any trouble figuring
out how to do what I needed to do. Makes me wonder how many people use
these terms like "change for changes sake" or "dumbing down the
interface" are just parroting what they've heard or have actually even
tried the application they're criticizing.
On 11/08/2014 10:49 PM, Charles Rivard wrote:
To remain competitive, I would stay with something dependable and
stable that continues to withstand the test of time. Chess is a good
example.
Even after a few thousand years, it's still one of the best strategy
games for two players, and the rules of the game haven't been changed
all that much. Why haven't they? Because the game works as it is
designed to. On the other hand, companies like Microsoft are always
having issues with their new fangled, newly designed, current
operating systems when they had a perfectly good system, namely
Windows XP.
However, they would rather stay current and innovative, as well as
less dependable and accessible than before.
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----- Original Message -----
*From:* David Chittenden <mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Sent:* Saturday, November 08, 2014 8:29 PM
*Subject:* Re: how to sync apps with iTunes 12: why change things
that worked like in itunes 11
Interestingly, you only feel this way when the product works
perfectly for your specific needs. On the other hand, even when the
product meets other people's needs, but it doesn't meet your needs,
you want the product to be changed. The fact is, other people have
different needs, and to remain competitiv:, companies need to change
to remain viable, competitiv:, and alive. Think about it, how many
apps on the app store have not been upgraded and are now effectively
dead? How many apps are no longer available because the creator has
gone on to other things?
David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com <mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone
On 9 Nov 2014, at 14:28, Charles Rivard <wee1s...@fidnet.com
<mailto:wee1s...@fidnet.com>> wrote:
I totally agree. If it ain't broke, quit fixing it!! Adding new
features is OK, but don't remove what works well, and don't change
the layout so drastically that it doesn't even resemble what
really works well. In my opinion, changing something just because
you feel that it is time to do so, whether it be to antiquity or
to appear to stay current, makes no sense to me at all.
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----- Original Message -----
*From:* Fanus <mailto:buys.fa...@gmail.com>
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Sent:* Friday, November 07, 2014 10:47 AM
*Subject:* how to sync apps with iTunes 12: why change things
that worked like in itunes 11
Hello list
I wonder why companies always change stuff that worked. I try
to transfer apps to my iPhone with iTunes 12 but there is no
"sync" button and I can't check and uncheck the apps in the
list. ITunes 11 worked so well, so I am always wondering why
change something that works?
Regards
Fanus
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