Well, unfortunately I can't answer that. All I can say is that it is better to 
manage your music through iTunes and not to go and delete, move oor rename 
stuff in the iTunes Media folder. If you want to delete a song and also remove 
it completely from your computer, then just select the "Move to Recycle bin" 
option when you delete it from iTunes.

If you have a shortcut to a folder in Windows and you rename, move or delete 
said folder Windows also does not know this hence any shortcut you made also 
will not work any more.


Regards,
Sieghard


-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Neal Ewers
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 10:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

Hi again. In your last message, you talked about how one deletes files from the 
iTunes Media library. If I do this, why does iTunes not realize that it is gone 
and thus does not give me the message about not being able to find it?

Neal

-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 12:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

If the file/song was deleted, moved or renamed the shortcuts which points to it 
won't find it any more hence resulting in the invalid location message.


-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Neal Ewers
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 10:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

Sieghard, as usual, well done. Thanks for the explanation. Only one related 
question. In which of the scenarios you mention would it be possible for me to 
have done something that allows a file to be shown but I get the message that 
iTunes cannot locate it.

Thanks again for your explanation. Interesting how things make sense when they 
are well explained. Your bringing attention to the fact that the message of 
confusion talks about the files in the iTunes media folder makes it quite clear.

Neal

-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 11:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

Hi Neal,

Here is the exact wording of the messages you get when you delete a song from 
your iTunes music library in iTunes 12:

iTunes
Are you sure you want to delete the selected song from your iTunes library?
This song will also be deleted from any iPod, iPhone, or iPad that synchronizes 
with your iTunes library.
Do not ask me again
Delete Song Cancel

OK, so this is pretty straight forward, you are asked if you want to delete the 
song and you are told that if you delete it and you previously synced it with 
your iPhone, iPod Touch or iPad that next time you sync that song will also be 
removed from your iOS device.
The "Do not ask again" is a checkbox and if you check it then the next time you 
delete a song the above message asking you if you want to delete it won't be 
displayed, you only get the second message which is as follows and which is the 
one you and some others find confusing:

iTunes
Do you want to move the selected song to the Recycle Bin, or keep it in the 
iTunes Media folder?
Only files in the iTunes Media folder will be moved to the Recycle Bin.
Cancel Move to Recycle Bin Keep File

This is really a straight forward question. You already indicated you want to 
delete the song from iTunes. Now iTunes wants to know if you want to move it to 
the recycle bin or if you want to keep it in your iTunes Media folder. Your 
options are to cancel the operation, to go ahead with deleting the song and to 
move the actual song to the recycle bin or to go ahead and delte the song from 
iTunes but keep the song in your music folder so you could later on add it 
again if you wish.

The second line " Only files in the iTunes Media folder will be moved to the 
Recycle Bin." Is just an explanation that if your song is located elsewhere 
like in a different folder or on an external hard drive, iTunes cannot move it 
to the recycle bin, only if the song is in the iTunes Media folder (that 
includes subfolders inside the iTunes Media folder) can it be moved to the 
recycle bin.

Hope I explained this in a way that makes sense.


Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Neal Ewers
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 9:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

Hi, I would like to ask the same question. The message I sometimes get when I 
try to delete a file is often confusing. It's rather like this. You can either 
delete a file and send it to the recycle bin, or you can delete it all 
together. If you delete is all together, this is the only way it will stay in 
the recycle bin. I know this is not the correct wording, but it is the 
strangest message I have ever seen. I know people have explained this on this 
list, but I also know that if I do the incorrect deletion according to the 
message, I am then told that it is still there but cannot be located.

Now, these facts are pulled from memory and may not be actually what happens, 
but my problem is that it is a very confusing situation that often leads to 
songs not being located.

So, if anyone can nail this one down, I would appreciate it.

Neal

-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Wayne Merritt
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 11:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!
As long as we are talking about managing play lists and libraries in iTunes, 
allow me to ask a related question. I have well over 4,000 songs on my main 
play list. There are a couple of albums that though they show up in the play 
list, my Windows screen reader (JAWS 16), always reads, "Invalid location." How 
might I fix this and have the correct location for each of the songs so that 
they will actually play in the play list?

Thanks,
Wayne Merritt

On 11/17/14, Thom Spittle <thom3...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Tes, you can delete them by just tapping the delete key. They stay on 
> your computer though
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 9:46 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!
>
>
>
> Surely though you must be able to take songs out of your library?
>
>
>
> Carol P
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Thom Spittle <mailto:thom3...@gmail.com>
>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>
> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 2:20 PM
>
> Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!
>
>
>
> In iTunes, if you delete a song from your library, they are still on 
> your computer. iTunes just points, or links, to that song.
>
>
>
> Thom
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 9:12 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!
>
>
>
> OK, you've been very helpful and I just need to get some more "hands on"
> experience now.
>
>
>
> Am I right in thinking that the only way I can lose songs completely 
> is to delete them from my computer (the library)?
>
>
>
> Carol P
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Thom Spittle <mailto:thom3...@gmail.com>
>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>
> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 1:34 PM
>
> Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!
>
>
>
> Sure,
>
> It's easier for me to manage my playlist, than it is to look through 
> every song.
>
> As I go through my songs, I press the application key, and arrow to 
> add to playlist and choose my playlist.
>
> Then, if I want to take a song away from my playlist, I just go to the 
> playlist, arrow to the song, and hit delete.
>
> When it's time to sync, I choose what playlist I want.
>
> Here is another scenario.
>
> I have a Christmas playlist. When it's Christmas time, I just choose 
> to sync it. When Christmas time is over, I just uncheck that playlist, 
> so next time it syncs, it will come off of my phone.
>
>
>
> On my device, I have a playlist for me and one for my wife.
>
> When we are together, we play hers, since she does not like my taste 
> in music.
>
> Even though we can play one playlist or another on the phone, the 
> songs tab will have all of the songs listed, from all playlists.
>
>
>
> Best,
>
> Thom
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 8:20 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!
>
>
>
> OK, that's what I thought.  Works for me when it's not enabled.
>
>
>
> Could you explain why you don't put music onto your phone without 
> using a playlist.  Personally I've never really got into playlists and 
> would much prefer to do it without, but would welcome your comments on 
> why you use the playlist method.
>
>
>
> Also, I would need a few instructions before putting music on without 
> a playlist, especially with regard to how to select individual items.
>
>
>
> Carol P
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Thom Spittle <mailto:thom3...@gmail.com>
>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>
> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 1:16 PM
>
> Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!
>
>
>
> No, Carol, I did not have column browser enabled.
>
>
>
> Thom
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
> Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2014 11:12 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!
>
>
>
> Looking through other posts which have appeared since this one, could 
> you confirm Tom whether or not you had enabled the column browser 
> before giving these instructions as it appears that perhaps you had not.
>
>
>
> Carol P
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Thom Spittle <mailto:thom3...@gmail.com>
>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>
> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 11:06 PM
>
> Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!
>
>
>
> Here are some instructions for adding the playlist to your phone.
>
>
>
> First, connect your phone.
>
> Next control F to go to the search box.
>
> Tab until it says iPhone button and press space.
>
> Control F again to the search box.
>
> F6 twice until it comes to the phone tree view. It should say summary.
>
> Down arrow twice to music.
>
> Tab until it says Sync Music, and make sure it is checked.
>
> Tab until it asks to sync entire library and make sure it is not checked.
>
> Make sure sync selected playlist artists, and genres is checked.
>
> About 3 or 4 more tabs will bring up the playlists to check which ones 
> you want.
>
>
>
> Then alt F to the file menu.
>
> Arrow down to device and hit enter or right arrow.
>
> Hit enter on sync iPhone.
>
> Done.
>
>
>
>
>
> Thom
>
> thom3...@gmail.com
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 4:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!
>
>
>
> Ah!  I've managed to tick those items successfully now and learned a 
> little in the process!
>
>
>
> Now all I have to do is to get that playlist onto my phone!  (Probably 
> have to be tomorrow!)
>
>
>
> I'll write up your instructions, with any amendments I have had to 
> make for further reference.
>
>
>
> Carol P
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Thom Spittle <mailto:thom3...@gmail.com>
>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>
> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 7:00 PM
>
> Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!
>
>
>
> Start by pressing control 1 to make sure that you are in the music library.
>
> Next, press control F to go to the search box.
>
> Hit F6 and this will bring you to a tree view.
>
> Arrow down until you get to your playlist.
>
> F6 until you get to the list of songs in the playlist.
>
>
>
> Thom
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:15 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!
>
>
>
> Hi Tom,
>
>
>
> OK.  I've made my playlist (which I hadn't done on the computer 
> before), but now I want to check what's in that playlist and don't seem able 
> to do it.
> Presumably I check Music then Playlists, but if you can help me from 
> that point, I'd be grateful!
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> Carol P
>
>
>
>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Thom Spittle <mailto:thom3...@gmail.com>
>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>
> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:54 PM
>
> Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!
>
>
>
> If I could, let me suggest that the easiest way for me to manage the 
> music I want on my iPhone is to make a playlist of the songs that I want.
>
> Then, when it comes to sync time. I just select the playlist I want.
>
> You can add songs to your playlist with the application key and go to 
> add to playlist and direct it to your playlist.
>
> If you want to delete a song from your playlist, just hit delete when 
> you are focused on the playlist song list.
>
>
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Thom
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 6:08 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!
>
>
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> Apologies for yet another ITunes question, but I admit I'm hopeless 
> with this app , but I must use it and am trying really hard to like 
> it, just a little.
>
>
>
> However, I'm not succeeding in carrying out the task of putting 
> further music onto my IPhone.  I haven't done it for some months but 
> now am ripping more of our music selection ... and doing OK there.
>
>
>
> However, I can't remember how to select some items of music and not 
> others and, whilst my PC (with Jaws) will say "Selected" if I
> shift+down arrow, I don't recall this was the way to do it in ITunes
> and when I go back to check what I've selected, it seems I have nothing 
> selected.
>
>
>
> Please help if you can.
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> Carol P
>
>
>
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