Hey Tom,

You're welcome. Now, if I can figure out my problem with the Apex, I'll be back 
in business using braille with the phone. It was the oddest occurrence yet with 
8.1. For braille input on the phone, I've been using MBraille, but it would be 
nice to have some consistency with braille output. I'm glad these tips are 
working for you. I didn't know if they would, since I'm using a different 
brand. Happy brailling. 

Cheers,
Eileen

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 20, 2014, at 1:56 AM, Les Kriegler <kriegle...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> It's under braille settings.  General, Accessibility, VoiceOver and Braille.
> 
> Les
>> On Nov 20, 2014, at 4:23 AM, "Tracy Smith" <trasle...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi All
>> 
>> Please refresh my memory: I did it once, but now forgot.
>> How do you turn automatic translation on or off?
>> I also prefer it turned off, but sometimes when typing passwords, it causes 
>> the password to be incorrect, because of the extra space you have to type.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Tom Lange
>> Sent: 20 November 2014 07:06 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Status of braille support in 8.1.1.
>> 
>> Hi Eileen. I didn't know that you could use the Apex thumb keys to move from 
>> link to link, I'll have to try that one. As for the 3-6 chord, that seems to 
>> work just fine. I used that chord to move from the beginning to the end of 
>> the message body as I write this, and I was able to bounce out of the 
>> message body to the top rthe screen at the Cancel button using a 1-2-3 
>> chord, then to the bottom of the screen using a 4-5-6 chord. So thanks for 
>> the tip; it helped a lot.   
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 19, 2014, at 2:18 PM, Eileen Misrahi <eileen.misr...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Okay. I decided to turn on my Apex and pair it with my iPhone 6 with 8.1. I 
>>> was able to use this a couple weeks ago, but now I'm having some strange 
>>> happenings. It pairs okay, but the thumb buttons will not move to the next 
>>> or previous links, nor can I use the keystrokes to go to the bottom or the 
>>> top of the home screen. If I touch the iPhone screen, the braille display 
>>> on the Apex will change. So, I can't check out the keystrokes that would 
>>> increase the navigation when one gets stuck in an edit field. I do remember 
>>> adding an extra space at the end of my text, which did the trick. Also, I 
>>> think the keystroke I was told by Humanware support is a 3-6 chord. 
>>> [space), but I'm not 100% on that. Try it out and see if it will work. hth.
>>> 
>>> Eileen
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 19, 2014, at 1:52 PM, Tom Lange <lang...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi. I'm having a significant issue in which Braille focus gets stuck 
>>>> in edit fields, both in the native Mail app and while texting. When 
>>>> that happens, there's nothing that I can do to get out of them. Even 
>>>> shutting down and restarting VoiceOver doesn't help. It's really
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 19, 2014, at 12:14 PM, Woody Anna Dresner <wadres...@att.net> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I use a Focus 40 Blue Classic and a REfreshaBraille with my 5S running 
>>>>> 8.1.1, and both displays work. yOu'll love the auto-panning feature when 
>>>>> reading eBooks; when you get to the bottom of one screen, the phone 
>>>>> switches automatically to the next. There's a Find command, Space with F, 
>>>>> that works on web pages and in apps like Read2Go. The only down side is 
>>>>> that Quick Nav is turned on by default when you install 8.1.1, and the 
>>>>> braille display command that's meant to toggle it, Space with Q, doesn't 
>>>>> work. So if you use BARD Mobile to read braille books, you need to use a 
>>>>> Bluetooth keyboard to turn off Quick Nav if you want to use the letter 
>>>>> commands built into the app, such as S for Search. Otherwise, I'm very 
>>>>> pleased with braille support.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Anna
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Nov 19, 2014, at 1:59 PM, Kimber Gardner <kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> My apologies for that.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I was curious about the status of braille support in the newest iOS.
>>>>>> I'm running 7.12 on a 4s and am reluctant to update if I will lose 
>>>>>> the use of my braille display.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks for any info.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 11/19/14, Jennie Facer <jennie.fa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Kimberly,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> There wasn't any message except for your name here. Can you please 
>>>>>>> ask your question again so we can help?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thank you so much!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jenn
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>            TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE, BUT TO SOMENE YOU ARE THE 
>>>>>>> WORLD!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Nov 19, 2014, at 8:25 AM, Kimber Gardner 
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>>>>>>>> wrote:
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