Hello,
OK. However, if Apple is going to use over the air for setting up the iOS 
device, then they should not force people to use iTunes. I should be able to 
send stuff to my iPhone without regard to iTunes. I think many people would be 
happy if Apple would completely allow all things to be transferred over the air 
instead of relying on iTunes.
Of course this is JMO.

> On Dec 2, 2014, at 4:47 PM, Raul A. Gallegos <r...@raulgallegos.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi, while I also find iTunes to be a spawn of the devil, it's not bad to use, 
> and quite honestly will provide you the necessary means to get copies of your 
> purchased music and ring tones so you have copies on your local computer. 
> This way you won't lose access to that precious purchased media.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Brent Harding
> Sent: December 02, 2014 3:24 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Waltr was Re: Directions for adding music from ITunes 12 to 
> IPhone
> 
> Are there Windows tools to do this? I'm not real fond of iTunes for Windows. 
> I think buying a couple of ring tones was a big waste because when I 
> restarted the phone, they just disappeared from the phone on me with the 
> latest 8.1.1 or whatever it is.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Christopher Hallsworth" <challswor...@icloud.com>
> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 3:12 PM
> Subject: Re: Waltr was Re: Directions for adding music from ITunes 12 to 
> IPhone
> 
> 
> Oh, will have to check out iTools. Didn't think that was accessible.
> 
> On 02/12/2014 21:03, Robert Cole wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Its nice to have choices of apps to choose.
>> I use iTools on the Mac and its free.
>> I have not added a video that needed converting, however, i have added 
>> a
>> 30 second mp3 ringtone and it was converted to the correct m4r format.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Dec 2, 2014, at 2:03 PM, "RobH." <bobs...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I think the page said it was even easier than that;  but glad I 
>>> understand it better now.
>>> 
>>> Thanks, Rh.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Christopher Hallsworth" <challswor...@icloud.com>
>>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 7:20 PM
>>> Subject: Waltr was Re: Directions for adding music from ITunes 12 to 
>>> IPhone
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> Please check out a fairly new paid project called Waltr from 
>>> www.softarena.com basically it takes the hassle out of iTunes 
>>> altogether. Connect your device before starting the app, open the 
>>> music or video you wish to upload, and it will magically not only be 
>>> added to your device but also make it available for native playback. 
>>> Unfortunately Waltr is a Mac app and can only be downloaded and 
>>> bought directly from the above website. I am in contact with one of 
>>> the developers, Josh, so I will see if he will consider porting it to 
>>> other platforms. So that's Waltr, w a l t r, from www.softarena.com I 
>>> hope you find this useful.
>>> 
>>>> On 02/12/2014 16:02, DJ Reese wrote:
>>>> Hi list:
>>>> 
>>>> Anyone have directions on adding music from ITunes 12 to IPhone? 
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> 
>>>> DJ Reese
>>>> 
>>>> Download and install the new Peachtree Radio fM app available in the 
>>>> Android, Apple and Black berry app stores today.
>>>> Peachtree Radio FM.  where some listen to remember and some listen 
>>>> to forget.
>>>> www.peachtreeradiofm.com
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