ok, that makes some sense because when I turned keychain on I don’t remember 
anything about making a special iCloud passcode nor do I recall getting one 
with a message to save a code  in a safe place. I would have done so. :)

Christina
> On Dec 12, 2014, at 11:52 AM, Christopher Hallsworth 
> <challswor...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> iCloud Keychain has nothing to do with this two factor authentication thread 
> we're talking about here. Two factor authentication adds another layer of 
> protection to your Apple ID. Not only does it require the password for your 
> Apple ID; it also requires you enter a security code shown on any or all of 
> your trusted devices or a text-capable cellular phone you've added when 
> setting up two factor authentication. If you do not have any of these then a 
> recovery key is required to unlock your Apple ID. The recovery key is 
> generated at random by Apple when setting up two factor authentication. 
> iCloud Keychain however is a vault if you will where all your usernames and 
> passwords, contact information and credit cards are stored in iCloud. This 
> involves a different kind of two factor authentication; your Apple ID 
> password and a security code which can either be the same as your device's 
> passcode or one you choose. Either way you still have to verify your identity 
> by entering another code they send to your text capable cellular phone. Sorry 
> for the long reply but I hope you get the idea!
> 
> On 12/12/2014 18:42, Christina C. wrote:
>> Thanks, on my iPhone I do have keychain turned on. In iCloud settings, 
>> keychain, advanced, it says that I have approve with security code turned 
>> on. I might remember choosing this but I don’t remember ever getting a code 
>> and being prompted to save it in a safe place. How do I go about getting 
>> this code? Or, maybe I should turn it off and go with a security question. I 
>> feel so confused but I am so happy to be informed or at least I am working 
>> to be informed. :)
>> 
>> Christina
>>> On Dec 12, 2014, at 10:36 AM, Teresa Cochran <batsfly...@me.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, Christina,
>>> 
>>> The iCloud passcode is set up when you activate Keychain for storing your 
>>> passwords. I don't know how two-step verification works if you don't have 
>>> one. It may prompt you to set one up.
>>> 
>>> Teresa
>>> 
>>> "We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing 
>>> with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks
>>> 
>>> On Dec 11, 2014, at 8:49 PM, Christina C. <blindmaclo...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:blindmaclo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hmmm, I don’t remember being given an option of two different ones. I just 
>>>> signed up years ago in iTunes when I started buying music from apple and 
>>>> didn’t have an iPhone or anything, than when iCloud came out it seems like 
>>>> I remember just signing in with my iTunes account which I guess is the 
>>>> same as my apple ID? I’m pretty confused. I don’t remember apple asking me 
>>>> if I wanted them different or the same. :)
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Christina
>>>>> On Dec 11, 2014, at 9:37 PM, Neal Ewers <neal.ew...@ravenswood.org 
>>>>> <mailto:neal.ew...@ravenswood.org>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Christina. You can certainly have them be the same. Some people choose 
>>>>> not to do that, but, as I said, you can choose to have them the same if 
>>>>> you wish.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Neal
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>>>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On 
>>>>> Behalf Of Christina C.
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 9:50 PM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: The dark side of Apple's two-factor authentication
>>>>> 
>>>>> Teresa,
>>>>> 
>>>>> What’s the difference between my iCloud passcode and my account password? 
>>>>> I thought mine were one in the same. I thought I only had one and it is 
>>>>> both my apple ID and my iCloud account with the same username and 
>>>>> password?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks for any clarification,
>>>>> Christina
>>>>>> On Dec 9, 2014, at 10:14 PM, Teresa Cochran <batsfly...@me.com 
>>>>>> <mailto:batsfly...@me.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What you have to do is provide both your iCloud passcode (not your 
>>>>>> account password) *and your trusted device that you've already set up is 
>>>>>> sent a text message with a six-digit code with a short expiration 
>>>>>> period. ONLY when you do these two steps can you reset your key, hence 
>>>>>> two-factor authentication. I speak from experience, having followed 
>>>>>> those instructions and reset my key. :)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Teresa
>>>>> 
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