Hello,
Well, I'm sure not going to purchase a supposedly unlocked phone if that's the 
case. I really wish that manufacturers could be a little more honest. Wow, 
imagine that?

> On Dec 20, 2014, at 12:30 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I've been waiting for a factory unlocked or what is sometimes referred to as
> a SIM Free, iPHone 6 Plus to be sold in the US.  
> 
> Apple is currently selling both the T-Mobile and A T & T Wireless 6 pluses,
> off-contract, but each time I go to an Apple store, I get different answers
> as to whether the phone is truly unlocked.  
> 
> From what I've researched, many have purchased the off-contract T-Mobile
> version, activated it with a non-T-mobile SIM and successfully unlocked or,
> more accurately, prevented it from becoming locked to T-Mobile.  However,
> I've also heard from those for whom this did not work and they found
> themselves, even after having paid full price for the phone, to beg t-Mobile
> to unlock their new phone.  
> 
> Try as I may, I cannot find one instance on the web of anyone confirming
> that the off-contract A T & T Wireless phones, being sold at Apple stores
> are being used with non A T & T Wireless SIMS.  
> 
> I am almost convinced that should I purchase a T-Mobile off-contract phone
> from Apple, immediately insert my A T & T Wireless SIM, before powering
> on/activating the phone, I should be fine, however, I just don't know if I'm
> willing to take the chance as the price of the device will be, after taxes,
> Apple Care, screen protector, etc over $1200.00 and, at such a price point,
> in my opinion, mistakes are not allowed.
> 
> Two days ago, I was at the Apple Store, there's one less than 3 miles away,
> several people at the store told me that the A T & T Wireless phone,
> off-contract, should remain unlocked or will not become locked to A T & T
> Wireless, even if I activate the phone with my A T & T Wireless SIM.  Some
> how, I just don't believe that as I have not yet heard of anyone
> successfully doing so.  
> 
> At another Apple store, I was told that the two phones are imaged
> differently and that one really should purchase a device made for the
> primary SIM.  
> 
> I've been to 8 Apple Stores during the last month or so and the one thing I
> cannot get a definite answer to is what exactly locks a phone to a specific
> carrier.  I get varying answers from various store managers.  
> 
> I was almost going to buy a 6 plus last night but, just before handing over
> my credit card I asked the manager, "Any idea on when you will be selling a
> SIM free phone?"  To which he answered, "You mean completely unlocked?  I
> don't know."   
> 
> It was that word "completely" that got to me and I decided not to purchase
> just yet.  
> 
> I just don't understand why, we in the US, cannot just go to an Apple store
> and purchase a factory unlocked, completely SIM Free iPhone 6 plus when the
> rest of the world can.  
> 
> Mark 
> 
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