On 26.09.23 22:10, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
Hi Hanna,
I was thinking about how this could work without SUSPEND/RESUME. What
do you think of the following?

1. The front-end sends VHOST_USER_RESET_DEVICE (or
VHOST_USER_RESET_OWNER, when necessary) when the guest driver resets
the device but not on vhost_dev_start()/vhost_dev_stop().

This is half the work of SUSPEND/RESUME.  It isn’t easy to do.

2. Suspend the device when all virtqueues are stopped via
VHOST_USER_GET_VRING_BASE. Resume the device after at least one
virtqueue is started and enabled.
3. Ignore VHOST_USER_SET_STATUS.

Reset would work. The device would suspend and resume without losing
state. Existing vhost-user backends already behave like this in
practice (they often don't implement RESET_DEVICE).

I don’t understand the point, though.  Today, reset in practice is a no-op anyway, precisely because we only send SET_STATUS 0, don’t fall back to RESET_OWNER/RESET_DEVICE, and no back-end implements SET_STATUS 0 as a reset.  By sending RESET_* in case of a guest-initiated reset and nothing in case of stop/cont, we effectively don’t change anything about the latter (which is what SUSPEND/RESUME would be for), but only fix the former case.  While I agree that it’s wrong that we don’t really reset the back-end in case of a guest-initiated reset, this is the first time in this whole discussion that that part has been presented as a problem that needs fixing now.

So the proposal effectively changes nothing for the vhost_dev_stop()/start() case where we’d want to make use of SUSPEND/RESUME, but only for the case where we would not use it.

Hanna

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