Hi Pete

On 12 Apr 2011, at 02:54, Pete C wrote:

> Hi! I am currently evaluating the various OpenLink offerings as part
> of an organisation's info/comms strategy. Few questions:
> 
> 1. Honestly what is the state of development for OpenLink products?
> I have seen a number of notable mentions on w3c sites of the products
> utilities, and have seen them in use on dbpedia. This gives me the
> impression of a wealth of power and rich feature set. Please excuse
> the bluntness but the trouble is, when I start browsing openlinksw.com
> I am hit by some 49,700 pages. "Which part of openlinksw.com were you
> browsing?" I hear you ask, well I only wish I knew. I look to the left
> and top of the web page, where navigation menus typically sit, in
> order to orient myself, but see only long lists of feed formats or
> feedback tools. Every product seems to have multiple, independent,
> incarnations; some of which are wildly outdated, though most are
> undated and I can only guess by the amount of broken links. After what
> must be 6 hours browsing, getting lost in everything from a "Monthly
> Support Newsletter" ending in 2009 and OdsWikiWeb timestamped 2008, I
> am still very disoriented.

[Hugh] We are in the process of cleaning and consolidating many of this Web 
Sites, which is an ongoing process, but all are products, Virtuoso , ODS, UDA 
etc are being actively maintain which and has always been the main focus of 
activities. We have actually made new open source, commercial releases of 
Virtuoso and ODS only last month as you would have seen. In terms of the ODS 
Web Site the main Web site is at:

        http://ods.openlinksw.com/wiki/ODS/

Containing the most up to date information from the release last month.

> 
> 2. Are there case studies available of OpenLink products, specifically
> Virtuoso and OpenLink Data Spaces (ODS)?
> I would love to know how organisations are using these powerful
> systems. Even better would be links to live installs.

[Hugh] I am not aware of any ODS case studies. The best I can point you to our 
our own external systems which run on a combination of Virtuoso and ODS. For 
example ever OpenLink Registered user is allocated and OpenLink Data Space 
account at:

        http://my.openlinksw.com/ods

Where all there interacts with us in terms of products download, purchases etc 
are automatically stored in there ODS Briefcase, and all other ODS applications 
are available for there general us as a public facing dataspace.

> 
> 3. Where are microblogging features at in ODS?
> I notice PubSubHubbub on the feature list. Perfect start, I know
> OStatus/Status.Net can use it. Also feed input type things. In the
> v6.1.3 release notes, on the ODS feature list, I see "Added microblog
> template". Sounds good. How does this work in practice? Are there live
> examples of ODS microblogs/importing of such?

[Hugh] Details on the ODS Weblog and micro blogging can be found at:

        http://ods.openlinksw.com/wiki/ODS/OdsBlog
        http://ods.openlinksw.com/wiki/ODS/ODSSWATOTutorial

> 
> 4. Can ODS be themed?
> The interface looks like it was designed by a programmer – highly
> functional but not so intuitive. Any changes to the open source
> edition seem to be via dense vad files – I'm not sure how productive
> branching that file would be. I am mostly looking to implement the
> foaf-focused profile manager, and would thus like to make that the
> interface's obvious focus – I suspect the tiny tiny [edit] link in the
> top nav menu will somewhat lack prominence (to say the least) for a
> non-technical user.

[Hugh]  The VAD packages are using for application distribution and 
installation, the source files for all these applications are included in the 
open source archive and can be accessed source forge at:

        
http://virtuoso.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/virtuoso/virtuoso-opensource/appsrc/?pathrev=VOS-6_1_3

The ODS Engine supports Virtuoso PL APIs, REST or SOAP based Web Services, and 
developers are encouraged to use their own UI atop the Web Services or Virtuoso 
PL based APIs. Details on the ODS Programmer Guide is available from:

        http://ods.openlinksw.com/wiki/ODS/ODSProgrammersGuide

We have descriptions and sample code showing how a the ODS User page can be 
implemented in AJAX, JSP and PHP as a starting point for hooking in external 
User inerfaces:

        http://ods.openlinksw.com/wiki/ODS/VirtuosoAppODSUsers
        http://ods.openlinksw.com/dataspace/dav/wiki/Main/VirtuosoOdsControllers

> 
> 5. How integrated are the ODS wiki instance logins to ODS logins?
> Is there Single Sign On? I am especially interested in MediaWiki. (The
> "Semantic MediaWiki" extensions show promise for integration into
> other RDF capable platforms.)

[Hugh] An ODS Wiki or any other ODS app instance login is that of the ODS login 
and is all managed by the base ODS Framework layer:

        http://ods.openlinksw.com/wiki/ODS/OdsFramework

We have WebID, OpenID  and OAuth support as forms of SSO as detailed at:

        http://ods.openlinksw.com/wiki/ODS/VirtODSFOAFSSL
        http://ods.openlinksw.com/wiki/ODS/ODSOpenID
        http://virtuoso.openlinksw.com/dataspace/dav/wiki/Main/VirtOAuth

We do have an ODS MediaWiki application as detailed at:

        http://ods.openlinksw.com/wiki/ODS/OdsIntegrationMediaWiki

Although this  does need updating as it is not using the latest MediaWiki 
version. We are also tracking the activities in the Semantic MediaWiki space 
which  we would like to integrate support into Virtuoso for at some point.

Best Regards
Hugh Williams
OpenLink Software

> 
> 
> Kind regards, Peter
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