At 4:13 PM -0600 5/27/05, Doug Woronuk wrote:
>Things are looking better.  It's still compiling, and here is the result of 
>the SEARCH command now:
>
>ITN2>search config.sh socksizetype,ccname
>
>ccname='DEC'
>
>socksizetype='unsigned int'
>
>Assuming this all works, I'll want to rebuild it again with G_Float format 
>instead of IEEE.  Is that also just a parameter to the configure.com script?

Yes, I think it's covered in perlvms.pod or README.vms, but IIRC, the
configure line should be something like:

$ @configure -"Uuseieee" -"Duser_c_flags=/FLOAT=G_FLOAT"

to disable IEEE and add G_FLOAT as an explicit compiler flag.  On
Alpha you could skip the second part as G_FLOAT is the default, but
on Itanium I think IEEE is the default, and on VAX, D_FLOAT is the default.

>Thanks for all your help Craig. 

You're welcome.

>I had been quite disappointed with the response from Perl maintainers a few 
>years ago when I reported some problems with Perl accessing files when the 
>filename contained DECnet node names,

Um, I did give you a precise diagnosis of the problem and pointed
toward what it would take to fix it.

>and again a year or so ago when some functionality was lost upgrading from 
>5.005-3 to 5.8.0 and the response seemed to imply that because not very many 
>people run OpenVMS with Perl, it was likely not going to be worked on.

I don't see this in the archives, so I'm not sure what exactly you
are referring to.  This is an all-volunteer operation here and people
do have limits on the amount of time and talent they can give away.
There is a longish list of things that ought to be done that have not
yet been done, and new things are showing up all the time.  Having
said that, Perl 5.8.7 is about to be released and all 99,000 or so
tests are passing, at least on Alpha which is what I can test with
most easily.

I am grateful for clear bug reports even if nothing can be done about
them in the short run, but to move your issues to the top of the list
still needing attention, you can code them up yourself and post
patches, hire some help, or submit bug reports and feature requests
to HP via your HP support contract.  I've seen plenty of evidence
that OpenVMS Engineering has fixed Perl bugs that customers have
reported and also that they are working on making Perl aware of new
OS and CRTL features.

>Your responsiveness to this has given me some optimism that open software 
>might actually work.  I've always been of the opinion that a paid organization 
>should be the only ones to own the source and be permitted to modify the 
>source, and that I as the user should pay for the runtime and thus fund the 
>maintainers who would have a commitment to provide support in a timely manner. 
> Maybe times are a-changin'.

There is a lot of crappy software and poor support out in the wild,
but I can't see that it cross-correlates with either open source or
commercial; there are plenty of good and bad examples of both.
-- 
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