I've just done a little test with Win2003.

        Inside a TS session, I run VNC as an application in another display number.  
Then I resize Remote Desktop screen window to the minimum (I don't know if this is 
useful, but I realise that I can't minimize the RDT window).  In this way, I could use 
VNC client to this session.

        I'm having 1024x768 at about 128 kbps and I could say the responsiveness is 
acceptable.

-----Original Message-----
From: jburysek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: vendredi 23 avril 2004 20:43
To: Seak, Teng-Fong
Subject: Re: Running VNC server and Remote destop XP simultaneously - not working

Thanks, but another display number didn't help.

Now I take it as feature :-((
Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. says: This is a known limitation of current releases.
(http://www.realvnc.com/pipermail/vnc-list/2004-April/044903.html)




Seak, Teng-Fong wrote:

>>-----Message d'origine-----
>>De : jburysek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Envoyi : mercredi 21 avril 2004 23:02
>>@ : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Cc : Seak, Teng-Fong
>>Objet : Re: Running VNC server and Remote destop XP simultaneously - not working
>>
>>Thanks for advices, but nothing helped.
>>A realised this:
>>- it realy hapened because of some shared "virtual" display driver
>>    
>>
>
>       This is probably the device which let you "see" under a TS or RDT session.  
> How did you get this info?
>
>  
>
>>- if I run VNC after reboot, everything work fine
>>- if I run RDT before VNC, it is not possible run VNC (only black
>>initialization widow appear)
>>    
>>
>
>       Because the default VNC server is "attached" to the console.  If you need to 
> "see" inside your RDT session, you have to stop the default server service and run 
> VNC as an application;
>or run VNC as an application in another display number.
>
>  
>
>>- if I run RDT at small resolution, which is actual remote PC resolution
>>(640x480x8), then I'm able to run VNC simultaneously (realy two windows
>>side by side)
>>    
>>
>
>       See above.
>
>       I don't know how RDT determines if a console session is used or not.  But FYI, 
> with Win2003, it's possible to get to the console session by using
>computer_name /console
>
>  
>
>>- if I stop RDT, than also VNC stop reactions (hangs?), so I have to
>>close viewer
>>    
>>
>
>       Because possibly the virtual display device dies as your close or disconnect 
> the session.
>
>  
>
>>- when I stop RDT and try to run VNC individualy, it create only window
>>in 640x480, but it is black
>>- when I ran RDT in big full screen resolution, then VNC tried to create
>>big window, but only black
>>- another VNC-like utility RemoteAdministraor 2.1 act in the similar way
>>(none window opened after RDT was running)
>>- both VNC and RAdmin works fine, if it is used prior RDT
>>- the same black windows is in
>>I thing, that RDT somehow "damage" video driver, which both applications
>>need.
>>I''l try to insert better gr. accelerator (not only 512kB).
>>    
>>
>
>       It's useless.
>
>  
>
>>Any idea how to solve this?
>>    
>>
>
>       Yes, but might be considered inefficient:
>inside your RDT session, run VNC as an application in another display number.
>minimize the Remote Desktop client window (minimize, not quit)
>run your VNC client
>
>  
>
>>Does exist some person, who is runnig both RDT and VNC simultaneously at
>>XP computers?
>>    
>>
>
>       Personally, I don't use RDT to XP, but only to Win2003, yes, both.
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