Dear Corni

Thank's for your thoughts.

The main reason to use VNC instead of the VMWare console is that the
vmware console needs an installation and the vncviewer can be startet as a
stand-alone app. Since we have a strictly controlled standard on the
desktop clients, we cannot install all software that we would need on our
desktops, so vnc is the best solution.

This could be another reason to add some vnc-functionality to vmware.

Thanks again.

Salvatore Cagliari
E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bechtle IT-Systemhaus Basel
Switzerland





Corni Beerse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
14.10.2004 10:30


        To:     Salvatore Cagliari/X/PH/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
        cc:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
        Subject:        Re: Problem with RealVNC 4.0 on Guests of VMWare ESX
        Category:



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Dear all
>
> I hope that there is a VNC Developer out there that can help us in solve

> this problem:
>
> We have a Linux Box with VMWare ESX 1.2.1 installed on it. On VMWare we
> created three Windows 2000 Guests and installed RealVNC 4.0 on it.
>
> Now comes the problem: After a while (a few hours), after I connected on

> one of the VM's with the VNCViewer, the Ctrl-Alt-Del Windows is
> disappeared! We are no more able to log in to this machine through VNC
nor
> through the VMWare Remote Console (They both connect to the same
console).
> The only way is to connect with RDP/Remote Console. But even through
this,
> or through a remote shutdown command, it was no more possible to cleanly

> reboot the server. We have to power down the VM to restart it.
>
> After communicating with VMWare about this problem we isolate RealVNC
4.0
> as the cause of this problem. After installing TightVNC 1.2.9 or RealVNC

> 3.3.3 the systems behaves normally and we are able to connect to the
VM's
> through VNCViewer (4.0) and VMWare Remote Console.
>

I've also followed the other posts on this subject but I still reply to
the
origional since I have some ideas about this subject:

The problem machine is a VMWare guest, running M$Windows and VNC-server.
At
first sight I donnot see why VNC is used, since the VMWare console has
more
functionallity. Reasons to do use vnc in a vmware guest inculde security
(vnc-viewers cannot access the powerbutton for example) and some network
optimization.

VMWare provides its own display drivers to coop with the
virtual-display-hardware. Since both the (virtual-) hardware and the
drivers are
  from the same resource, it might not conform to all standards or
otherwise act
as expected. Since VNC has some expectations to the system, it might not
find
these details. Kind of like the direct-access of some video-boards where
VNC
does not find anything to display.

With this in mind, I expect that the video-acceleration that can be set in
the
display-settings, can have some influence in the relation between vnc and
vmware. Then, VMWare can emulate some (vga-type) hardware. Choosing that
might
also give a better vnc-performance (be it on a horrible display quality..)

In the end, the best solution can be some add-on to VMWare that provides
the VNC
protocol to the VMWare console. Kind of like the vnc.so-library that can
hook
into XFree86. Then, the console of the VMWare guest can be accessed with
vnc-viewers and with the VMWare console.

Additional freatures of a vnc-server as module to the vmware-console
include:
- os-indipendend vnc since it is handled by the virtual-hardware
- Also available to systems (vmware-guests) that do not have their own
network
access, using the hosts network access.
- From a VMWare point of view: a nice alternate to a view-only
vmware-console.



CBee
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