Wez:

A fair point: I should more accurately say that with the echoServer approach, *most* end users will not have to make
any firewall adjustments. The person running the echoServer
may have to, although they are not necessarily an "end user"
of the client software which uses their server.


        Thanks for letting me clarify; I didn't mean to come
across as misleading.

cheers,
Scott


On Mon, 8 Nov 2004, James Weatherall wrote:

Scott,

Fair enough.  The only comment I'd make is that the claim that you can
exchange files using Kaboodle without modifying any firewall settings is not
correct - you need the echoServer machine's firewall to be properly
configured to let connections in, and you need to be sure that both ends
allow outgoing connections, at least to the echoServer port.

Cheers,

Wez @ RealVNC Ltd.


-----Original Message-----
From: Scott C. Best [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 08 November 2004 18:45
To: James Weatherall
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Kaboodle 0.99d and VNC

Wez:

        My company provides the echoServer application for
anyone to run (it's Linux-only right now; a Windows one is
being worked on). The idea is that a "community of users"
will have one tech-savvy person who can run a server so the
rest of the community doesn't have to sweat the details of
firewalls or IP-addresses (or even dynamic DNS) anymore.
Lots of value for $25, IMO. :)

        We're running a "demo" version of it for
proof-of-concept with Kaboodle, but unlike GoToMyPC, we're
interested in selling the server more than we are
subscriptions to the service.

cheers,
Scott

On Mon, 8 Nov 2004, James Weatherall wrote:

Hi Scott,

Understood.  The system you describe will work provided that the
required ports are enabled for outgoing access through the
firewalls
at both ends, and that someone somewhere is running the echoWare
server, which I assume you provide yourself?

Cheers,

Wez @ RealVNC Ltd.


-----Original Message-----
From: Scott C. Best [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 08 November 2004 18:13
To: James Weatherall
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Kaboodle 0.99d and VNC

Wez:

Heya. Yes: with no ports enabled/forwarded, two
Kaboodle users can
VNC and file-transfer with each other.
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