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Today's Topics:

   1. Cincinnati Outage? (J. Oquendo)
   2. Re: Cincinnati Outage? (Hiers, David)
   3. Re: Cincinnati Outage? (paul)
   4. Issues with ISPs blocking SIP 5060 - 5061 (David Thompson)
   5. Re: Issues with ISPs blocking SIP 5060 - 5061 (Hiers, David)
   6. Re: Issues with ISPs blocking SIP 5060 - 5061 (Jay Hennigan)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 12:03:04 -0600
From: "J. Oquendo" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: [VoiceOps] Cincinnati Outage?
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii


Anyone seeing (or rather NOT seeing) voice traffic from
Cincinnati via Level3 or other? Squirrels confused between
dark fiber and metamucil? Apologies for multi-list, in the
event someone on VoiceOps knows something. Level3 says:
"nope, our system is five nines!" (as usual).


-- 
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J. Oquendo
SGFA, SGFE, C|EH, CNDA, CHFI, OSCP, CPT, RWSP, GREM

"Where ignorance is our master, there is no possibility of
real peace" - Dalai Lama

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http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x2BF7D83F210A95AF


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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 18:20:54 +0000
From: "Hiers, David" <[email protected]>
To: "J. Oquendo" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]"
        <[email protected]>
Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Cincinnati Outage?
Message-ID:
        <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

No reports from our users.


David


-----Original Message-----
From: VoiceOps [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of J. Oquendo
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 10:03
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: [VoiceOps] Cincinnati Outage?


Anyone seeing (or rather NOT seeing) voice traffic from Cincinnati via Level3 
or other? Squirrels confused between dark fiber and metamucil? Apologies for 
multi-list, in the event someone on VoiceOps knows something. Level3 says:
"nope, our system is five nines!" (as usual).


--
=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+
J. Oquendo
SGFA, SGFE, C|EH, CNDA, CHFI, OSCP, CPT, RWSP, GREM

"Where ignorance is our master, there is no possibility of real peace" - Dalai 
Lama

42B0 5A53 6505 6638 44BB  3943 2BF7 D83F 210A 95AF 
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x2BF7D83F210A95AF
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 13:24:29 -0500
From: paul <[email protected]>
To: "J. Oquendo" <[email protected]>, [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Cincinnati Outage?
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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Preliminary Earthquake Report
Magnitude       3.5
Date-Time       
20 Nov 2013 17:59:40?UTC
20 Nov 2013 12:59:40?near epicenter
20 Nov 2013 11:59:40?standard time in your timezone
Location        39.439N 82.190W
Depth   7 km
Distances       
4 km (2 mi) ESE of Nelsonville, Ohio
14 km (8 mi) NNW of Athens, Ohio
46 km (28 mi) SE of Lancaster, Ohio
56 km (34 mi) WNW of Vienna, West Virginia
90 km (55 mi) SE of Columbus, Ohio
Location Uncertainty    Horizontal: 0.0 km; Vertical 7.8 km
Parameters      Nph = 71; Dmin = 69.4 km; Rmss = 0.60 seconds; Gp = 22?
Version =
Event ID        us b000l2y3


Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S?4

-------- Original message --------
From: "J. Oquendo" <[email protected]> 
Date: 2013/11/20  13:17  (GMT-05:00) 
To: [email protected] 
Cc: [email protected] 
Subject: [VoiceOps] Cincinnati Outage? 
 

Anyone seeing (or rather NOT seeing) voice traffic from
Cincinnati via Level3 or other? Squirrels confused between
dark fiber and metamucil? Apologies for multi-list, in the
event someone on VoiceOps knows something. Level3 says:
"nope, our system is five nines!" (as usual).


-- 
=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+
J. Oquendo
SGFA, SGFE, C|EH, CNDA, CHFI, OSCP, CPT, RWSP, GREM

"Where ignorance is our master, there is no possibility of
real peace" - Dalai Lama

42B0 5A53 6505 6638 44BB  3943 2BF7 D83F 210A 95AF
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x2BF7D83F210A95AF
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 15:51:21 -0800
From: David Thompson <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: [VoiceOps] Issues with ISPs blocking SIP 5060 - 5061
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"

Has anyone been having problems lately with ISPs? actively blocking UDP
5060 ? 5061? I?m having problems with Road Runner in Hawaii apparently
blocking those ports preventing me from communicating with the customers
PBX. My customer has a ticket open with them but we aren?t confident that
we?ll get anywhere with them. If we don?t is there an authority that we can
speak with that can make them open those ports or face sanctions?



David Thompson
Network Services Support Technician
(O) 858.357.8794
(F) 858-225-1882
(E) [email protected]
(W) www.esi-estech.com
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 00:14:48 +0000
From: "Hiers, David" <[email protected]>
To: David Thompson <[email protected]>, "[email protected]"
        <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Issues with ISPs blocking SIP 5060 - 5061
Message-ID:
        <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

I don't know of anything that obligates an ISP to carry any particular form of 
traffic.  All the AUPs that I've seen have plenty of room for them to block 
pretty much whatever they want, but it's been a while since I've one do this 
kind of thing.

You might get some traction with your state consumer protection or public 
utility office.



David

From: VoiceOps [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David 
Thompson
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 15:51
To: [email protected]
Subject: [VoiceOps] Issues with ISPs blocking SIP 5060 - 5061

Has anyone been having problems lately with ISPs' actively blocking UDP 5060 - 
5061? I'm having problems with Road Runner in Hawaii apparently blocking those 
ports preventing me from communicating with the customers PBX. My customer has 
a ticket open with them but we aren't confident that we'll get anywhere with 
them. If we don't is there an authority that we can speak with that can make 
them open those ports or face sanctions?

David Thompson
Network Services Support Technician
(O) 858.357.8794
(F) 858-225-1882
(E) [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
(W) www.esi-estech.com<http://www.esi-estech.com>



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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 16:57:35 -0800
From: Jay Hennigan <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Issues with ISPs blocking SIP 5060 - 5061
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252

On 11/20/13 3:51 PM, David Thompson wrote:
> Has anyone been having problems lately with ISPs? actively blocking UDP
> 5060 ? 5061? I?m having problems with Road Runner in Hawaii apparently
> blocking those ports preventing me from communicating with the customers
> PBX. My customer has a ticket open with them but we aren?t confident
> that we?ll get anywhere with them. If we don?t is there an authority
> that we can speak with that can make them open those ports or face
> sanctions?

I haven't run into any blocking, but we're seeing more and more
instances where the larger carriers will install some sort of NAT router
as the handoff on residential and small business accounts as opposed to
giving the customer a DHCP or static public IP.

Many of these devices horribly break SIP, especially if you're putting
any kind of ALG behind them.

Getting the carrier to turn off all of the cruft and just give you raw
access to the Internet is often an exercise in futility.

--
Jay Hennigan - CCIE #7880 - Network Engineering - [email protected]
Impulse Internet Service  -  http://www.impulse.net/
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