The principle is valid; mobile numbers have HLRs.

I would not exclude them or the method based on the free demo.



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From: Paul Timmins [mailto:p...@timmins.net] 
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 11:56
To: Hiers, David (DS)
Cc: VoiceOps; ja...@compuwizz.net
Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Preventing calls to cell phones with guaranteed accuracy

HLR Check doesn't know about my Sprint CDMA phone.

On Aug 21, 2015 14:49, "Hiers, David" <david.hi...@cdk.com> wrote:
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> Checking for the existence of TN’s HLR  might do the trick:
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> From: VoiceOps [mailto:voiceops-boun...@voiceops.org] On Behalf Of 
> Jared Geiger
> Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 11:40
> To: VoiceOps
> Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Preventing calls to cell phones with 
> guaranteed accuracy
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> It seems ANI Networks has a product that would work. When you do an LRN dip, 
> it can show the OCN Category such as Cellular. Looks like it also supports 
> DNC list support.
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> http://aninetworks.com/PDF/ANI_Networks_Routing_Registry_Service.pdf
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> I don't have any experience with the product, but looks like this is what you 
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> On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 4:25 PM, Carlos Alvarez <caalva...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Their lists are already cleaned by NPA-NXX, it's just not sufficient any 
>> more because of LNP.  Looks like the TCPA compliance product from Neustar, 
>> which someone else posted yesterday, is the best solution.  Pretty cheap 
>> too.  It's just indicates intermodal porting of a number with no other info.
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>> On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 12:40 PM Paul Timmins <p...@timmins.net> wrote:
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>>> I know a guy who runs a site that sells the npa nxx to carrier type at a 
>>> fraction of the lerg costs....
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>>> On Aug 19, 2015 11:39 AM, Alex Balashov <abalas...@evaristesys.com> wrote:
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>>> > ‎Indeed, you'd start from the NPAC, which would get you, for a given TN, 
>>> > an LRN. Then what?
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>>> > From: Kidd Filby
>>> > Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 10:52
>>> > To: Carlos Alvarez
>>> > Cc: voiceops@voiceops.org
>>> > Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Preventing calls to cell phones with 
>>> > guaranteed accuracy
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>>> > If I were to offer this service or database access, I would start with my 
>>> > own local copy of NPAC that I'd update every X-minutes a day.  This 
>>> > product is available now and has been for a while.  This is the only 
>>> > sure-way, I know of, to have the most accurate data to work from.
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>>> > Kidd
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>>> > On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Carlos Alvarez <caalva...@gmail.com> 
>>> > wrote:
>>> > I have a customer in market research who is legally required to manually 
>>> > dial calls to cell phones.  Right now they are considering abandoning all 
>>> > of their auto/predictive dialer software and going to manual dial for 
>>> > everything, because the list-scrubbing services have been shown to be 
>>> > inaccurate.  There are extreme penalties for auto-dialing a cell phone, 
>>> > and "best effort" is NOT a defense to this, at all.  For example, Gallup 
>>> > just settle a claim for $12M.
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>>> > So they need a totally accurate way to prevent a cell phone call from 
>>> > originating from their dialer.  The only thing I can think of is some 
>>> > sort of LRN dip + LRN-to-carrier-type response.  One of their people 
>>> > talked to Neustar, but didn't get great answers because he doesn't really 
>>> > understand telephony.  Before I get in touch with Neustar, I thought I'd 
>>> > see if people here have some ideas.
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>>> > If you provide a commercial product for this, please feel free to tell me 
>>> > so on or off list, the customer is willing to pay for the service and 
>>> > we're open to all options.  I don't have a budget number yet but manual 
>>> > dialing is going to cost them quite a bit for some types of studies.
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