So as a reasonably sized metaswitch shop (100k seats) i can say their platform is pretty bulletproof if deployed and managed properly and their support is an absolute pleasure to work with. Just keep in mind, metaswitch REALLY wants to sell a complete turnkey product, and the farther you deviate from their ecosystem the less polished it becomes out of the box.

Where it falls short is in the agility side. Its roots are in the massive number of small and medium clecs it powers so thats where so much of their development time seems to go. They are definitely behind the curve on enabling some of the richer business services or exposing api's that permit easy and rapid development of new services. The good news is the platform is fairly easy to integrate with open source stacks for adding richer call flows but now you are off on your own, or paying consultants.

I have no personal experience with 2600hz BUT i have done a pretty reasonable amount of work building service providers built on raw opensource tech (freeswitch/opensips etc) and given whats at the core of 2600hz it looks promising, but could only be as successful as you engineer your deployment.



On 11/1/2017 8:25 PM, Colton Conor wrote:
Aviv,

Great write up, and I agree with most all of your thoughts. My question to you is what do you recommend for those "whitelabel providers powered by Broadsoft"? What platform do you recommend they go to now?

You mentioned Netsapiens and Metaswitch. I have a bad feeling in my mouth about Netsapiens due the multiple outages that SkySwitch has and continues to have on their Netsapiens platform. Metaswitch seems like a nice solution, but not widely talked about on the forums. What else is out there at this point?



On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 11:55 PM, Aviv Shaham <a...@ironsip.com <mailto:a...@ironsip.com>> wrote:

    Some thoughts:

    - This move is great news for any mid-market+ ITSP with a
    proprietary tech stack and royalty-free softswitch, such as Jive.
    Any of the large ISPs contemplating moving away from Broadsoft may
    shop around and scoop these up.

    - This is very bad news for non-ISP providers on the Broadsoft
    platform who have built their entire business around Broadsoft
    licensing and have very little VoIP IP of their own, like Nextiva.
    Those ITSPs just became Cisco resellers overnight competing for
    the same customers against Cisco's inside sales force and existing
    mid-size and enterprise footprint and partnerships.

    Expect continued consolidation as those ITSPs head for the exits,
    and fast. Also does not bode well for whitelabel providers powered
    by Broadsoft such as BluIP and the new Coredial offering.

    - As for device makers, this is particularly bad for Polycom who
    invested heavily in Broadsoft-only integrations while ignoring
    smaller softswitch makers for years. 2-3 years from now Broadsoft
    resellers will be selling primarily Cisco endpoints. Polycom saw
    this coming and came out with their device lease program a couple
    months back. Cisco will practically be giving away free SIP
    devices to accelerate growth. In other news, Polycom is being
    replaced by Yealink.

    - Pretty good news for Netsapiens and Metaswitch, although just
    like with Broadsoft and BroadCloud, Netsapiens competes directly
    with its resellers by way of its unique and close relationship
    with Skyswitch.

    - CPaaS will naturally continue to grow. Broadsoft will need some
    serious CPaaS chops, and Cisco-owned Tropo is not enough to
    compete in this market. They will make some moves, maybe even pick
    up Plivo. Might as well aim higher and get Twilio before Amazon
    does, or at least before Amazon comes out with their business
    Hosted PBX offering with built-in CPaaS deep integrations.

    - They really did blindside their audience at Connections this
    year. One has to wonder why that was necessary.

    Aviv




    On Mon, Oct 23, 2017, at 04:10 PM, Peter Rad. wrote:
    > This transaction says that being a stand-alone telco vendor
    doesn't work
    > any longer.  Taqua, Tekelec and Acme Packet for examples. ALU isn't
    > exactly setting the world on fire.  Consolidation means fewer
    customers.
    >
    > And despite the analyst forecasts, UCaaS is not rocking the
    world. It is
    > all going toward CPaaS.
    >
    http://channelplaybook.com/telecom/the-ucaas-numbers-dont-add-up/
    <http://channelplaybook.com/telecom/the-ucaas-numbers-dont-add-up/>
    >
    > Sonus and Genband have been in talks for months.
    > No idea what Metsaswitch will do.
    >
    > I find it funny they wait until their customers fly out to
    Phoenix to
    > get kicked in the nuts. If they had leaked it 2 weeks ago, some
    of the
    > attendees could have saved the airfare.
    >
    > Also, BSFT needed a new C-Suite like 3 years ago. Slack kicked their
    > ass and they took forever to try to catch up. Never even
    integrated with
    > Slack!
    >
    > They compete directly with their customers (BroadCloud).  It's not a
    > good formula for the 400 clients who are not the Duopoly.
    >
    > Regards,
    >
    > Peter Radizeski
    > RAD-INFO INC
    > 813.963.5884 <tel:813.963.5884>
    > http://rad-info.net
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > On 10/23/2017 2:57 PM, Brian Murray wrote:
    > > Very shocking news to say the least. A strange vibe here at
    the 2017 Broadsoft Connections for sure. Very curious to see how
    this pans out. I do agree that this would bode well for other
    players in this space, but honestly for how long. Everyone is
    ultimately for sale.
    > >
    > > Brian J. Murray
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > -----Original Message-----
    > > From: VoiceOps [mailto:voiceops-boun...@voiceops.org
    <mailto:voiceops-boun...@voiceops.org>] On Behalf Of Ryan Delgrosso
    > > Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 2:53 PM
    > > To: voiceops@voiceops.org <mailto:voiceops@voiceops.org>
    > > Subject: [VoiceOps] Cisco acquires Broadsoft for approx the
    GDP of Belize
    > >
    > >
    
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-broadsoft-m-a-cisco-systems/cisco-buys-broadsoft-for-1-71-bln-in-software-push-idUSKBN1CS02Q
    
<https://www.reuters.com/article/us-broadsoft-m-a-cisco-systems/cisco-buys-broadsoft-for-1-71-bln-in-software-push-idUSKBN1CS02Q>
    > >
    > > I cant say im surprised but in this day and age i suspect
    there will be far less technical synergies than anyone is hoping for.
    > >
    > > I suspect this bodes best for Metaswitch and netsapiens as
    some SP's will undoubtedly reconsider BSFT as a platform strategy.
    > >
    > > Also directly from the article:
    > >
    > >          "BroadSoft provides software and services that enable
    mobile, fixed-line and cable service providers to offer so-called
    unified communications over their internet protocol networks." ...
    ouch
    > >
    > > Any other thoughts?
    > >
    > >
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