It is a good alternative if you don't offer DSL, TLS, UNEs, etc but it's more cost effective to do it as an Interconnected VOIP carrier than as a CLEC if you go that route.

MARY LOU CAREY
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Cell: 615-796-1111

On 2019-08-16 10:44 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
*nods* it's the transport piece I don't have. Transport to all of
these tandems at reasonable prices. I figured since they did have
those pieces, it'd be a good alternative. Maybe not.

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FROM: "Paul Timmins" <p...@timmins.net>
TO: "Mike Hammett" <voice...@ics-il.net>
CC: "VoiceOps" <voiceops@voiceops.org>
SENT: Saturday, August 10, 2019 1:20:43 AM
SUBJECT: Re: [VoiceOps] Connecting to Remote Tandems

Inteliquent has several products:

Outbound IXC termination - good for sending translated toll free
calls. They give you money for sending the calls.
LTS - inbound and outbound local/local toll exchange with inteliquent
members. Not an A-Z product, but the cheapest way to send calls to
tmo/comcast/etc. You get the calls back through this too.
IXC terminating inbound - they become the tandem of record in the LERG
for your interlata traffic. I think they give you a cut of the tandem
transit fee they charge IXCs but it's been a while since I read the
contract.
AIA - outbound LD product, not A-Z - super competitive rates to on-net
carriers and a few others they get a deal on. If someone else uses
this, it comes in the IXC terminating inbound and you bill
inteliquent's CIC for the inbound inter carrier compensation where
applicable. They make their money in not having to pay the tandem
transit and other crap that an IXC would ordinarily pay to terminate,
but they still pay the terminating carrier's inter carrier comp.

Local interconnection service - mostly for interconnected voip. You
use their switches too interconnect. Not cheaper than doing it
yourself, unless you don't already have a TDM switch and SS7 links and
transport. If you lack either of the 3, it can work out financially.

-Paul

On Aug 9, 2019, at 5:42 PM, Mike Hammett <voice...@ics-il.net>
wrote:

I wanted to note that I am still interested in working with
competitive tandem providers for "on-net" calls...  calls among
their customers, without ever hitting an ILEC tandem.

Also, now that I look at their web page...  it says it allows me to
receive both local and long distance calls using that service...
which seems to conflict with what the sales guy told me.  *sigh*

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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
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FROM: "Mike Hammett" <voice...@ics-il.net>
TO: "VoiceOps" <voiceops@voiceops.org>
SENT: Friday, August 9, 2019 2:42:37 PM
SUBJECT: [VoiceOps] Connecting to Remote Tandems

I'm evaluating methods of extending our footprint. I purposely left
out company names.

One of the companies we talked to was really only interested in
getting us the inbound long distance calls, not the local ones.
Well, they would, but the terms were vastly different.

Given that I still need to build out to connect to the local tandem,
what's the point in using a third party to connect to long distance?

Are the terms for connecting to the local tandems different because
the access tandem is simpler, whereas the local tandem could
potentially involve connections to a bunch of other switches, once
volume dictated I needed direct connections...  and they don't want
to deal with that?

Are there third parties that don't have vastly different terms for
local tandem services?

Also, is it likely that I just don't understand what's going on? I
went circles with the sales rep to make sure I understood what he
was saying, but I could be wrong.

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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
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Midwest Internet Exchange
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