If you already have SS7 services via Sigtran then going into a Frontier area would just be a matter of adding another SS7 for that tandem.

MARY LOU CAREY
BackUP Telecom Consulting
Office: 615-791-9969
Cell: 615-796-1111

On 2023-10-12 11:42 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
*nods* We take SIGTRAN over IPSec over the public Internet, then
convert to SS7 over DS1s in some old Ciscos.

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From: "Nick Olsen" <n...@141networks.com>
To: "Mike Hammett" <voice...@ics-il.net>
Cc: "Mary Lou Carey" <mary...@backuptelecom.com>, "voiceops"
<voiceops@voiceops.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2023 6:04:03 PM
Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] SS7 Landscape

We use them at $DAYJOB. We've had no issues with syniverse themselves
in the recent years while I've been at the company. But plenty of
issues with the transport providers to reach them. Luckily never both
at the same time. Including a number of instances of flapping. Note,
these are A-Links over TDM, not SIGTRAN at this time.

On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 4:22 PM Mike Hammett via VoiceOps
<voiceops@voiceops.org> wrote:

Anyone in here using Syniverse for these services and can speak to
their reliability?

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From: "Mary Lou Carey" <mary...@backuptelecom.com>
To: "Mike Hammett" <voice...@ics-il.net>
Cc: "voiceops" <voiceops@voiceops.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2022 11:59:14 AM
Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] SS7 Landscape

There are pros and cons to everything. It sounds like in your case
you
may just want to keep your ISUP trunks and SS7 links, but maybe look
at
another provider for SS7. Syniverse is also an option but I'm not
sure
if their service has gone downhill like TNS' apparently has.

MARY LOU CAREY
BackUP Telecom Consulting
Office: 615-791-9969
Cell: 615-796-1111

On 2022-01-25 10:38 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
Right, but as I said earlier, I'm already in the same building as
the
tandem, so I'm just adding points of failure for moving an
existing
operation somewhere else.

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From: "Mary Lou Carey" <mary...@backuptelecom.com>
To: "Mike Hammett" <voice...@ics-il.net>
Cc: "Paul Timmins" <p...@timmins.net>, "voiceops"
<voiceops@voiceops.org>
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2022 10:42:22 PM
Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] SS7 Landscape

When you use a PSTN connection provider you route your traffic to
them

via SIP and they handle all the SS7 so you can eliminate your
direct
LIS
trunks with the LEC and your SS7 Links.

MARY LOU CAREY
BackUP Telecom Consulting
Office: 615-791-9969
Cell: 615-796-1111

On 2022-01-23 05:33 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
Well right, but wouldn't I still need all of the same stuff
(perhaps
a
few less trunks to specific switches, only now I have fewer
minutes
to
spread the costs over?

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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
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Midwest Internet Exchange
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From: "Paul Timmins" <p...@timmins.net>
To: "Mike Hammett" <voice...@ics-il.net>
Cc: "voiceops" <voiceops@voiceops.org>
Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2022 12:01:01 AM
Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] SS7 Landscape

Even without IPES you can switch your feature group D to voip
through
these aggregators and get rid of basically everything that isn't
the
local LEC's legacy network.

On Jan 22, 2022, at 7:03 PM, Mike Hammett <voice...@ics-il.net>
wrote:

Sure, but then I just transfer the problem to someone else,
until
the traditional PSTN goes away or modernizes. I am working on
IPES
for expansion markets, though.

Also, for my home LATA, I'm needing to be in the same building
as
the primary tandem, so it's kind of a selling point for large
customers in that area that I would have fewer opportunities for
failures. I don't have to go to Chicago and back to get to the
operator in the next row of racks over. Though, I suppose my SS7
diversity and availability is the weakness, not the actual call
path.

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Intelligent Computing Solutions
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Midwest Internet Exchange
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From: "Paul Timmins" <p...@timmins.net>
To: "Mike Hammett" <voice...@ics-il.net>
Cc: "voiceops" <voiceops@voiceops.org>
Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2022 1:46:46 PM
Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] SS7 Landscape

Reduce your reliance on it more and more. Switch to IP tandems
(Inteliquent/Peerless/etc) and ip interconnect. The people who
make
and support SS7 equipment are in a dying market, the brain drain
on
it is immense as people retire, and the longer you rely on it,
the
worse it's gonna get.

TNS is a big dog in the space. But that's not saying much
anymore.

On Jan 22, 2022, at 10:00 AM, Mike Hammett
<voice...@ics-il.net>
wrote:

We currently get our SS7 via TNS. I (maybe incorrectly)
understand
them to be a big dog in that space.

I've had two major problems with them in six months.

What are my alternatives? Are they less pleasant?

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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com [1]

Midwest Internet Exchange
http://www.midwest-ix.com [2]

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