From: William Beaty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Scams, toys Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2004 18:57:07 -0700 (PDT)
On Fri, 2 Jul 2004, Mark Goldes wrote:
> Our own research suggests he has produced a working
> motor. Whether it proves commercially pactical remains to be seen. I hope
> it does.
Since 100% of free-energy companies have failed, what's so different about his company that would suggest that he has any hope of success whatsoever?
First, let me suggest the term free-energy is a misnomer. In any device of this nature that actually functions, energy converson is taking place. In our case, we believe it to be from ZPE. Just as with solar or wind energy conversion, capital costs are involved.
Second, a couple of EEs in S. Africa who worked with Brady some years back, have stated he is a good engineer. They have not, to our knowledge, viewed a working machine, but were invited to do so. If the machine now in Germany is the only one functoning, that may explain why they have not reported to have viewed a demonstration.
Brady has unhappy creditors and his business ethics were enough of a problem that Allen, his former U.S. represntative, severed that connection.
> As to revealing test results from our labs, we do that only under an NDA,
> and on very rare occasions.
And in that vein... what's so different about yours?
That will be revealed, as stated earlier, in due course. I believe our technology will prove commercially viable and patentable.
On the basis of what has surfaced to date, I would not quarrel with your odds. However, we are aware of enough to suggest other labs have also produced self-running machines. However, I have no wish to discuss that issue, and will not reply to queries.
If I was into gambling, I'd bet my life savings that we'll never see anything real. Make no mistake, I'd HOPE that you have something, but at the same time I'd stake major money in betting that the "free energy secrecy rule" will do it's magic once again, and totally block any chance of success.
> Once patents are public, or Demonstration
> devices and toys are available, they will speak for themselves. I still
> expect 1 Kw generator modules, and relatively inexpensive demo devices, will
> be available before the end of next year.
Well, if you can't get patents, is that the end? We have no reason to doubt patentability. The recent Patent issues to Dr. Fabrizio Pinto last December is the most recent example of a ZPE conversion technique that has proven patentable.
Many companies don't bother to patent toys, since offshore competitors will come out with copies after a few years. But by that time, the original company has moved on to new products, and the cheap knock-off companies are only eating the tail end of someone else's past success.
The patent issue around toys might be addressed differently. In Silicon Valley, patent applications would be filed, and sometimes not followed through, when competitors made it foolish to bother.
We suspect Brady will have a hard time patenting. There is much prior art in magnetic turbines. If that proves the case, what you suggest may have a real world demonstration model. We will be watching with interest. Mass production of our technology is already on the horizon with patent licenses. Without patents I suspect rapid volume will prove more difficult. Time will tell.
"No patents, keep moving forward" is a successful business model that conceivably could break the FE logjam. If you cannot get your free-energy device patented, remember, that need not be the end of your company. On the other hand, if you're developing a corporate culture of secrecy, self-importance, and of distrust of outsiders, then without patent protection, the prospects are probably very dim, just as they have been for every other group who has taken that route.
Mark
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