Hi Horace. Sorry I haven't picked up on this; the last time I tried to wrap my head around Bell's theorem I got a bit lost in the nomenclature. Maybe we can hash it out here in terms less obscure.
My understanding of all of these FTL schemes using quantum teleportation is that some real physical event is happening to the remote paired particle when the local particle is detected. Yet, you are starting with the condition that the particles be paired. This was Bertelmanns critique; consider for example a pair of socks. We mix up the right and left socks, and mail them off to our two receivers. Bob opens his box, and sees he has a left sock. Instantly, Marys sock "becomes" a right sock, by virtue of the fact that according to QM we can't treat the sock as right or left until we measure it and thus it exists as a mixture of the two states. This I see as an artifact of our method of analysis; the using of statistics to study a discrete real event. I am lead to understand that Bells inequalities prove that no hidden variables exist, but I'm wondering if there is any physical basis for this? The sorts of experiments you are suggesting are really to the point, if there is something physical happening when we collapse the wave function then some sort of FTL scheme ought to be realizable. I'm skeptical of this only because I know from my meagre study of statistics that the first thing that gets thrown away in a statistical analysis is causality, a requirement for any communication scheme. Do you still think one of your ideas presented earlier on the list to be workable? K. -----Original Message----- From: Horace Heffner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 11:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FTL Triad Quantum Communication Method Ooops! The post made sense to me at 2:30 in the morning, before going to bed. Now that I have awoken, I see it is nonsense! Not an uncommon experience for me these days. Sorry! The flaw is that, for Bell's inequality to be applied, Both Alice's and Bob's individual results from observation of one photon selected at random from each corresponding triad must be compared. This comparison takes place at less than light speed. When this is done, however, the suggested method does seem to provide a means to do an Aspect style experiment using polarization instead of spin. The odd thing is the importance of timing to the result, timing which relativity says can not always be provided because Alice and Bob's time is relative to the observer. Regards, Horace Heffner
