Thanks for this info, Steven,
> Now that Naudin has made it to the big time (as far as sponsorship), I'll > be quite curious if the CF dev and dissemination continues on his website. Probably the unimpeded "dissemination" has already stopped some time ago - at least so far as the really important stuff relating to French *national interests*. What you see now on the site are likely the "rejects"- the devices in which the margin of robust OU are deemed too slim, like the Frolov tube (COP 1.3). I had heard from a good source some time ago that the so-called "bingo fuel" project and related water-fuel genset was aleady sucessfully fully modified (mizuno-like) and that efforts were being made by the French (through US lawyers) to buy-up some of the patent rights for this type of thing, which are (were) mostly held here. There are apparently 12-15 fairly strong patents worldwide (if you include the biomass related ones which Fred Sparber has mentioned) and apparently a French consortium is trying to get a common IP cartel worked out for sharing these patent rights internationally, ahead of any announcement. A number of US efforts to produce synthetic gas such as AquafuelT, AqualeneT, MagnegasT, TrueFuelT, Carbo-hydrogenT.... not to mention the many Brown's gas clones - have surfaced in the past, but few if any appeared to be headed for sucess in the US - which could relate to the influence of our benevolent and all-caring Petro shadow-government. I suspect that Naudin himself is already out of the picture on this project, but maybe not... That possibility could be related to why Steven got the hush-hush treatment in his attempted interview. If the project has moved into government-supported labs somewhere, and into the labyrinthian bureauracy, it will suffer inevitable delay. If we have any French lurkers here on vortex, it would make a good "private eye" project to try to find out the details, as apparently this is fairly well-known in certain circles - there are now too many special-interests involved to keep it really secret. Of course, they would prefer not to see it in print, even on arcane news groups. Apparently there is a joint lab for the three French carmakers: Peugeot Citroën and Renault, which is probably where this work has been moved to. Those companies, being nationalized anyway or mostly so, have FAR more incentive to find and perfect a gasoline-displacing technology than almost any other country, other than Germany, since France has so little oil - plus these companies do not fare well in normal international competition with say, the Germans, so they are in double need of a boost to the manufacturing sector. There is also a "elfish" Petro-government counter-influence in France, of course, but it is a fraction of what we have here in the US. Naudin's original BingoFuel Reactor used ordinary tap water, consumable carbon electrodes and low voltage electrical energy for producing a synthetic gas. A plasma is generated underwater, not unlike the Mizuno work which uses different parameters. The recent modification probably uses the best of both. However, it should be emphasized that the heat ouput of the gas which is generated is MUCH higher than the amount of consummed carbon would indicate, meaning that LENR-CANR is involved. Let's make that clear - this is definitely a CANR device, even though it requires a continuous input of cabon. For whatever reason, this is hard for some observers to understand - that CANR can become part of a compound combustion-oriented technology. Plus one does not need to provide a *solid* electrode, such as solid carbon or graphite or even pressed-coal-dust; and certainly not Mizuno's tungsten, which is way too expensive. IOW it had already been suggested years ago that one could "pump" crude-oil or coal-slurry or biomass slurry, or even sugar syrup) through a hollow electrode (i.e. through a pair of oppositely charged pipette-electrodes) and get the same effect as using two consummable carbon electrodes. That is probably the route that they have taken. Even if this does not eliminate the need for fossil fuel, there is strong evidence for substantial overunity, so almost everyone concerned would be partially pleased... IF it works, of course... (except the "seven sisters," so to speak). The device was already significantly OU before the Mizuno enhancement, which I suspect relates to the power input parameters and the "type" of plamsa created (that being *eerie pinkish glow* which is said to be somehow very important),,, ... the small "downside" of this type of device is that the output is "mixed gas" and must be ported immediately into an engine's intake without any delay, in order to avoid pre-ignition. You should not attempt to store it, as one unfortunate Florida company tried to do a few years ago. And of course the auto owner must fill-up with both water and some kind of carbon-containing fuel - probably 2-3 times more water than fuel by weight. A small bother, it would seem, in light of the possible savings. The suspected new version (like the original BingoFuel Reactor) will likely produce lots of what was once called "town gas" - a mixture of carbon monoxide and hydrogen but together with many short-lived oxidizing chemicals - and those short-lived oxidizing chemicals may provide some of the OU, which will likely be in the range of a COP of over 4. As mentioned, carbon (or fossil) fuel is still needed - but this fuel can be derived from coal or agricultural (biomass) and will burn very cleanly in air, with much less NET carbon-load to the eco-system. Because of the anti-pollution and low-net-carbon aspects, it will be easy for Europeans to *demand* that the technology gets full governement *tax-free* support, even if it initially costs more to implement. The "reign of oil" could end in Europe... sooner, rather than latter... ...but alas, that geo-political situation would result in MidEast oil immediately dropping back below $20 in the USA, and consequently, it could take much longer for us to displace oil here... this is why I am considering dusting out my old French language lessons and may apply for some kind of extended visa in France... BTW since we are on the general subject of Gallic-innuendo, rumor has it that the lovely Mireille, from the Prof. Capretz series, was... shall we say, an actress employed in a far different millieu, before academia came calling...Ah, don't you just love the "joie de vie" of that culture...? Jones Vive La France ! A BingoFueled Citroën in every garage and a Croque Monsieur in every gamelle ! Eat your heart out, Geo. Bush !
