It seems to me that this backs up what Paul Rowe has
been saying for many years now. 

Since I believe Rowe has really "conjured" H out
of the aether, I find no difficulty in believing this
too.

We will no doubt eventually end up with a situation
where these things are much easier to achieve than
anyone  has ever imagined. 

Grimer




At 10:22 am 15-12-04 -0800, you wrote:
>The possibility that a "bare proton" created in our
>3-space is somehow able to attract virtual particles
>in quanta of 3.4 eV (and multiples) directly from
>Dirac's sea, resulting in excess energy, is
>fascinating.
>
>It could help to explain what is going on with some of
>many reported excess-energy phenomena involving bare
>protons, especially Langmuir's torch and the recent
>MAHG of Nicholas Moller.
>http://jlnlabs.imars.com/mahg/
>
>In October in the J. Phys.: Condens. Matter 16
>7017-7023 (2004) Experimental observation of an atomic
>hydrogen material with H�H bond distance of 150 pm
>"suggesting metallic hydrogen" (according to them) was
>reported by Badiei and Holmlid of G�teborg University,
>Sweden.
>
>This may or may not be further evidence of the main
>point of this post, but should be mentioned in case
>the authors mis-interpreted their own work. 
>
>Abstract - with (alternative) commentary. A phase of
>hydrogen called Rydberg matter (RM) is formed in
>ultra-high vacuum by desorption of hydrogen from an
>alkali. The RM atoms are released with a surprising
>amount of energy - 9.4 eV, which is over double the IP
>(ionization potential) of the alkali in which had been
>immobilized, and after deducting the energy of the
>laser photons which released them there appears to be
>a net gain of around 3.4 eV per atom. The authors of
>this experiment, OTOH, went into it looking for
>evidence of metallic H, and consequently they believe
>from the results that this energy is evidence of the
>bond energy of a metallic phase of atomic hydrogen,
>using the results by Chau et al (2003 Phys. Rev. Lett.
>90 245501) 
>
>They could be correct, but this result also can be
>reinterpreted to fall in-line with some recent
>suggestions about possible excess energy methodology
>in Langmuir's torch, and in the Moller Atomic Hydrogen
>Generator, which is based on years of careful
>investigation by Moller into the details of Langmuir's
>torch, even going so far as to dig-up Langmuir's
>typewritten correspondence with Bohr from the archives
>in Denmark. This torch was a big-deal back then, way
>ahead of its time.
>
>Much of the reported excess energy related "bare
>protons" (or for that matter, "bare deuterons" in the
>interfacial layer of a CF electrode) could be related
>to the simple presence of the proton charge being able
>to attract an opposite charge from Dirac's sea of
>negative energy, specifically from "virtual
>positronium". 
>
>The virtual Ps has a liftime which is fleeting in our
>3-space and does not have time to annihilate, BUT
>before fading into the reciprocal space which is
>Dirac's sea, it does have time enough to become
>disrupted and to leave behind half or all of its
>binding energy of 6.8 eV, which is likely to be in the
>form of light-lepton pairs of net mass/energy of 6.8
>eV. or 3.4V each, in my view. 
>
>Anytime one sees "peaks" in the spectroscopy of
>hydrogen plasmas at these two levels, particularly the
>lower one, this could possibly be indicative of an
>energy "extraction" from Dirac's sea, at least in this
>hypothesis. Unfortunately, this explanation is also
>effectively indistinguishable from saying that the
>energy comes from "ZPE" except that here it is
>quantized, so it can be traced to a source.
>
>Jones
>
>
>

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