Hi Kyle + Nick. You both must be correct with respect to the second order effect on dielectrics being due to an acoustic pulse; certainly varnishing the windings will only slightly concentrate the electric fields closer to the core but will substantially reduced the acoustic Q of the device.
As the rod is being expulsed from the core rather than drawn in, it's the conductivity of the rod that is important. Thus the induced current flow in the rod due to the leakage from the torroid causes the rod to be repelled. As you say, I wouldn't expect the permeability of the rod to matter much, given the geometry, but a permeable rod would tend to be drawn in and stay in the center counter to what is seen. John asks about the laser experiment, and I'll add my voice. This is the only part of the ATG experiment that seemed anomalous to me. Anyone replicate this? Also, you ( Kyle ) posted earlier on the FTL thread. Sadly, I've been mad busy on my new software product to keep on that thread, but I found it rather amusing that you in fact have already done one of the FTL experiments as described by Nimtz, namely the double prism microwave experiment you described to me earlier in the year. If you haven't already, check out the papers on this URL http://www.ph2.uni-koeln.de/Nimtz/pub/paper-list.html and you will see a paper with a diagram of the double prism and an explanation of his FTL theories ( mainly the QM notion that tunneling is instantaneous ). K. -----Original Message----- From: Kyle Mcallister [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 11:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Toroid experiments Hi guys, Back when ATG initiated all of this, based on some conjecture proposed by Rick Anderson, I did my own experiments with this. I even went so far as to have rapidly-shipped to me the exact cores used in their experiments, same ferrite composition, same size. Used everything the same, got the same effects they did. I found later that coating the windings with polyurethane varnish stopped the paper-moving effect. I later also found that the moving up and down of the coils was likely due to the toroids behaving as 1-turn solenoids and interacting with the vertical component of the earth's magnetic field. Positioning magnets of large field area around this device would make it do things differently. These brief pulses introduced to the coils will produce a leaky field, as the core is saturated, as pointed out by Keith. Jean-Louis checked for magnetic field in the center of the toroid when it was connected to straight DC. This is not conclusive for the case of capacitor discharge transients. Also, the changing magnetic field will likely produce a rather healthy E field at right angles to the B field (through the toroid 'hole' and around) and this could have a nice effect on dielectrics. Also note that Jean-Louis set up a sort of charge detector there, and it detected establishment of charge in the center of the toroids. As to the question of whether or not a metal object will be pulled into the center and suspended there, I don't think this is likely given the asymmetrical nature of the setup, and the brief transients used. It is not going to 'stay there' like it would for a DC field, it will be shot through. I built a few variants of 'coil guns' before, and they do this same thing, regardless of whether or not the projectile is magnetic or not...if it is conducting, it will work. I'm not saying this should not be investigated, far from it. I think it should, and I fully support Jerry Bayles and Jean-Louis going further with this. But for the time being, it looks as if it can be explained conventionally. I hope there is something else. I've always had a funny feeling about toroids, that there is something there, if only we can 'get at it'. This is one of the reasons I rarely post my experimentation. I usually end up figuring out how the conventional stuff explained the effect perfectly. But...the search for the elusive unconventional stuff is damn fun! --Kyle __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250

