Hi Kyle + Nick.

You both must be correct with respect to the second
order effect on dielectrics being due to an acoustic
pulse; certainly varnishing the windings will only
slightly concentrate the electric fields closer to
the core but will substantially reduced the acoustic
Q of the device. 

As the rod is being expulsed from the core rather than
drawn in, it's the conductivity of the rod that is
important. Thus the induced current flow in the rod
due to the leakage from the torroid causes the rod to
be repelled. As you say, I wouldn't expect the permeability
of the rod to matter much, given the geometry, but
a permeable rod would tend to be drawn in and stay
in the center counter to what is seen.

John asks about the laser experiment, and I'll add my
voice. This is the only part of the ATG experiment that
seemed anomalous to me. Anyone replicate this?

Also, you ( Kyle ) posted earlier on the FTL thread.
Sadly, I've been mad busy on my new software product
to keep on that thread, but I found it rather amusing
that you in fact have already done one of the FTL
experiments as described by Nimtz, namely the double
prism microwave experiment you described to me earlier
in the year. If you haven't already, check out the papers
on this URL

http://www.ph2.uni-koeln.de/Nimtz/pub/paper-list.html

and you will see a paper with a diagram of the double prism
and an explanation of his FTL theories ( mainly the QM
notion that tunneling is instantaneous ).

K. 




-----Original Message-----
From: Kyle Mcallister [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 11:52 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Toroid experiments


Hi guys,

Back when ATG initiated all of this, based on some
conjecture proposed by Rick Anderson, I did my own
experiments with this. I even went so far as to have
rapidly-shipped to me the exact cores used in their
experiments, same ferrite composition, same size. Used
everything the same, got the same effects they did.

I found later that coating the windings with
polyurethane varnish stopped the paper-moving effect.
I later also found that the moving up and down of the
coils was likely due to the toroids behaving as 1-turn
solenoids and interacting with the vertical component
of the earth's magnetic field. Positioning magnets of
large field area around this device would make it do
things differently.

These brief pulses introduced to the coils will
produce a leaky field, as the core is saturated, as
pointed out by Keith. Jean-Louis checked for magnetic
field in the center of the toroid when it was
connected to straight DC. This is not conclusive for
the case of capacitor discharge transients. Also, the
changing magnetic field will likely produce a rather
healthy E field at right angles to the B field
(through the toroid 'hole' and around) and this could
have a nice effect on dielectrics. Also note that
Jean-Louis set up a sort of charge detector there, and
it detected establishment of charge in the center of
the toroids.

As to the question of whether or not a metal object
will be pulled into the center and suspended there, I
don't think this is likely given the asymmetrical
nature of the setup, and the brief transients used. It
is not going to 'stay there' like it would for a DC
field, it will be shot through. I built a few variants
of 'coil guns' before, and they do this same thing,
regardless of whether or not the projectile is
magnetic or not...if it is conducting, it will work.

I'm not saying this should not be investigated, far
from it. I think it should, and I fully support Jerry
Bayles and Jean-Louis going further with this. But for
the time being, it looks as if it can be explained
conventionally. I hope there is something else. I've
always had a funny feeling about toroids, that there
is something there, if only we can 'get at it'.

This is one of the reasons I rarely post my
experimentation. I usually end up figuring out how the
conventional stuff explained the effect perfectly.
But...the search for the elusive unconventional stuff
is damn fun!

--Kyle


                
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