Chicago...
first 400kWh = 0.08275 there after 0.06208 per kWh

Natural gas is the cork screw:
0.6817 per therm before taxes and etc... 0.8367 after

Pretty sad it's cheaper to run the electric space heater than the 95%
efficient gas furnace.  Hell, even propane is cheaper... $15-18 to refill a
standard 20lb grill tank.

Sure would be nice to get a "free energy" device to offset my $200-300
monthly gas bill.  Bueller? Bueller? Anyone?

-j


-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Nagel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 1:06 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: What if all cars ran on electricity . . .


Hi Stephen.

Fair enough, my rate goes down from 16.46 to 16.05
after 250KWH. I should add that although I am using
the 16 cents figure, the actual cost is 10.1 cents.
the extra 6.5 cents is the markup Con Ed is charging,
in addition to a fixed cost of 10.50 for the service.
Like I said, they always overestimate because their
estimates are based on estimates, not on real per/month
usage. What really bothers me is with all this
estimating and fudging it becomes impossible to judge
fairly what's happening. Such a situation is ripe
for fraud; and sadly we have enough of that here in NY
to propel Eliot Spitzer to the governorship. Hey,
every cloud has a silver lining ( grin ).

I was hoping this discussion would prod some other members
to post their costs, I'm curious what others are
paying for electricity. The last time I looked, the
_actual_ cost ( currently 10.1 cents ) was competitive
compared to other providers. I could shop around
again, although all the markup and fixed costs make
it not so promising.

We're about to head into summer, and I've upgraded
the old AC unit I had to a new high efficiency device.
We generally need only one, it sits right next to my
desk so I only need to cool one room. Still, I
expect to see huge bills as a result.

K.

-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen A. Lawrence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 1:29 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: What if all cars ran on electricity . . .



Jed Rothwell wrote:

>
> The cost of collecting data from the meters is only a small percent of
> total expenses because meter readers only come around two to four
> times a year, as Nagel noted. Your bill is based on your previous
> history consumption. I do not see why anyone objects to this.

I never objected to that -- I love the system!   It saves me money!

If all kWh were the same price it would make no difference (nonzero
discount rate aside).  But they're not -- if you use more electricity in
a particular month, you pay less per kWh, at least in New England.  (Or
anyway you used to -- haven't read the fine print on a bill in a few years.)

What that means is that a given amount of electricity, consumed at a
constant rate, costs _more_ than the same total amount consumed in a
"lumpy" fashion.

Well, guess what?  If they don't read my meter for a few months, when
they finally get around to it there's likely to be a substantial
discrepancy -- a big "lump".  Result:  I get the benefit of a few kWh of
cheaper electricity.  :-)

> Electric power consumption is usually quite predictable. The power
> company may overcharge you during some quarters, but it is bound to
> undercharge you in others. Occasionally after you have been
> overcharged you get a statement saying you own no money, but this
> seldom happens to me.
>
> - Jed



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