OK Fred, lets get serious with this toy....Try this, slow speed.

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I'm sorry Fred, I'm afraid I can't do that. 
This mission is too important for me to allow you to jeopardize it. 
Just what do you think you're doing, Fred? 
I think this conversation can serve no more purpose 
Would you like to hear a song? My creator taught it to me. Listen. listen.

Daisy, Daisy, Give me your answer do?
I'm half crazy, All for the love of you!
It won't be a stylish marriage,..I can't afford a carriage,
But you'll look sweet upon the seat of a bicycle built for two! 

There is a flower within my heart, Daisy, Daisy!
Planted one day by a glancing dart,
Planted by Daisy Bell!
Whether she loves me of not, Sometimes its hard to tell;
Yet I am longing to share the lot of Beautiful Daisy Bell! 

Daisy, Daisy, Give me your answer do?
I'm half crazy, All for the love of you!
It won't be a stylish marriage,..I can't afford a carriage,
But you'll look sweet upon the seat of a bicycle built for two! 

We will go "tandem" as man and wife, Daisy, Daisy!
Ped'ling away down the road of life,
I and my Daisy Bell!
When the road's dark we can dispise P'licman and "lamps" as well;
There are "bright lights" in the dazzling eyes
Of beautiful Daisy Bell! 

I will stand by you in "wheel or woe, Daisy, Daisy!
You'll be the bell(e) which I'll ring, you know!
Sweet little Daisy Bell!
You'll take the lead in each trip we take,
Then if I don't do well; I will permit you to use the break,
My beautiful Daisy Bell!!! 



-----Original Message-----
From: Frederick Sparber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 12:28 PM
To: knagel
Subject: Re; Hearing Keith Speak


Keith,

Copy and Paste this to the free ReadPlease demo.  
 www.readplease.com

File then close to clear the readplease window for pasting in your
message.

I wouldn't use the feminine voices.   :-)

Fred


Hi Greg;

There is no need to blame anyone, yourself or this list.
You know what needs to be done. You're an intelligent
and articulate person. Make the measurements, design
the closed loop system, and post the results. I understand
that these projects are a long hard slog, and I admire
your persistence. But we're long past discussing the relative
merits of energy measurement. If you are seeing 30-50%
gain as I believe you mention elsewhere on the lists ( correct
me if I'm wrong ) then close the loop. If you can't, then
the measurements are wrong. The key thing is, we can _never_
convince you of that fact. The experiment must do that.

If there are specific problems that arise, do post about them,
and perhaps you can generate some positive discussion here.
Below, you suggest a solution to your earlier problems with SMOT. Am
I missing something? What's preventing you from just implementing
your solution?

Also, I personally would very much like to hear about your
opinions regarding US4215330? Is this not SMOT? Have you made
any attempts to contact Mr Hartman? There are other patents as
well. Why did these other devices fail?

K.



Frederick Sparber
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