In reply to  Mike Carrell's message of Tue, 10 May 2005 15:21:59
-0400:
Hi Mike,
[snip]

The ionization energy of K+++ (to K++++) is 60.91 eV (not a
multiple of 27.2)
However the ionization energy of K++++ -> K+++++ is 82.5 eV (about
.9 eV > 81.6 eV)
The sum of the ionization energies of K through K++ resulting in
K+++ is 81.686 eV.
The energy hole required for H -> H[n=1/4] is 81.6 eV.

>Robin wrote:
>> It is K, not K+++ that is the catalyst. K+++ is the end product
>> after the catalytic action (which then eventually returns to K by
>> repeatedly capturing free electrons).
>>
>---------------------
>Potassium catalysis is possible for 2K+ *and* for K+++. K+ is produced in
>the thermal reactor by evaporation and dissociation of KNO3 and K+++ results
>from the dissociationof K2CO3. 

I doubt very strongly that thermal dissociation of K2CO3 would
yield K+++ directly. More likely is that it directly yields K+,
which then captures a free electron from the plasma, resulting in
a K metal atom. This then in turn acts as a Mills catalyst, where
three electrons are stripped in the reaction:

H + K -> H[n=1/4] + K+++ + 3e- + 122.4 eV

resulting in the presence of K+++ in the plasma where it may be
spectroscopically detected.
(a further 81.6 eV is released when the K+++ captures free
electrons).
 
>In the reactor, encounters of K+++ and H
>yield H(1/4), 

This reaction doesn't work, because the ionization energy of K+++
is wrong. See above.

>but K+++ can capture electrons to become K+ and two of those
>with H yield H(1/2).

Agreed.

>See "A Comprehensive Study of Spectra of the Bound-Free Hyperfine Levels of
>Novel Hydride Ion H-(1/2), Hydrogen, Nitrogen, and Air", page 19, second
>paragraph from the bottom. 

This is the paragraph is question, none of which suggests that
K+++ is a catalyst:

"2K+ to K + K2+ each provides a reaction with a net enthalpy equal
to the potential energy of
atomic hydrogen. In addition, the first, second, and third
ionization energies of potassium are 4.34066 eV ,
31.63 eV , and 45.806 eV , respectively. The triple ionization (t
= 3) reaction of K to K3+, then, has a net
enthalpy of reaction of 81.7766 eV , which is equivalent to 3×
27.2 eV . Line emission from a potassium rtplasma
corresponding to K3+ was observed at 65 - 67 nm, 74 - 76 nm, and
89.2 nm. K2+ was observed
at 51 nm and 55 nm, and K+ was observed at 62 nm. K was observed
at 3447 Å, 4965 Å, and
5084 Å. The potassium lines were confirmed by NIST tables and
standard discharges of potassium [41,
81]. The characteristic emission from K3+ and K2+ confirmed the
resonant nonradiative energy transfer of
3× 27.2 eV from atomic hydrogen to atomic potassium and the
transfer of 27.2 eV from atomic hydrogen to
2K+ , respectively."



>See also Conrad's study of the thermal reactor in
>"Emission in the deep vacuum ultraviolet from a plasma formed by
>incansescently heating hydrogen gas with trace amounts of potassium
>carbonate", in Plasma Sources Science and Technology. He did not do the same
>spectroscopic studeis that BLP did. 

Perhaps you could quote the relevant passage from this document,
as I am unwilling to fork out for it (and you apparently already
have)?
[snip]

Regards,


Robin van Spaandonk

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