Jones wrote...

Taking Fred's "steam electricity" posting to the next level - can
the self-generated electricity phenomena of steam be used in
situ - to any net energy benefit? or stated another way....

Can two wrongs (near misses) ever make a right?

Most everyone on this forum is familiar with the RHVT
(Ranque-Hilsch Vortex Tube) and with steam-dissociation
(thermolysis or pyrolysis) which is high temperature steam
splitting as a source of hydrogen, with or without added
electrical input.

Both of these are *inefficient processes,* in one sense. Even when
concentrated solar energy is used as a heat source, thermolysis
has never made much of an impact (as much as scientific logic
seems to indicate that it should have). And the vortex tube is
little more than a novelty.

The RHVT is inefficient, sure, but that is *only* as a cooling
device; and thermolysis is inefficient as a source of hydrogen,
primarily because of *recombination* losses prior to separation of
the hydrogen from the steam. These problems may have seemed
insurmountable, but ....

Can these two near misses be combined synergistically to overcome
the weakness of each in a single device?

The Beck Patent is a step in the right direction - but it does not
go far enough...

Thoughtful insight Jones has, coupled with Fred's ability to keep honest people honest.

Richard

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