jed, i swear, head over to fark.com. we could use you. ill even sponsor you for totalfark. we have discussions like this daily. its great fun.
On 6/27/05, Jed Rothwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Grimer wrote: > > >I very much hope and pray that he hasn't "progressed" beyond Pius IX > >and I look forward to the day when the "battle lines" are once again > >"wonderfully clear" > > I rest my case! We are in perfect agreement. I accuse Grimer of letting > religion trump academic freedom, and interfere with science, and Grimer > agrees that is exactly what he believes, and what he would do. > > By the way, that 1896 quote from Pope Pius was an attack against evolution. > A few decades later, the next Pope endorsed evolution, and it is now the > officially sanctioned view of the Church that Darwin was right, and > evolution did occur. So, if Grimer prays that the Pope Pius would stick to > his guns, that makes both of them heretics. Woops! The authorities back in > 1920 ordered Grimer to switch sides, but he didn't get the message. > > I am kidding. Grimer did not realize that the particular "revealed > doctrine" Pius was pontificating about later turned out to be un-revealed, > just like the opposition to the Copernican theory that the earth orbits the > sun, and the Church's endorsement of slavery (which ended around 1870 as I > recall). Heresy, like treachery, is a matter of dates. You have to believe > whatever "revealed doctrine" they come up with, when they tell it to you, > and then you have to turn on a dime and believe the exact opposite as soon > as They Change Their Minds. It calls for a kind of mental agility that I > could never master, despite my years of training in cultural relativism. > > Now I promise I will drop the subject, but I must say, this was FUN! > > - Jed > > > -- "Monsieur l'abbé, I detest what you write, but I would give my life to make it possible for you to continue to write" Voltaire
