I am increasingly impressed by intelligent design - but not by an All knowing Creator.
It's starting to look more and more like we were patched together by some ET's over a period of time. This would account for how screwed up the human race is and how ad hoc and disorganized our religious and moral systems Are. There never was any 'perfect' human design to reference. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Taylor J. Smith Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 8:49 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: Intelligent design Hi All, Normally I refrain from contributing to this type of thread; but I am compelled to ask where is there any evidence for Intelligent Design, in some benign sense? We, the Lords of Creation, have backs that are often unsuited for bipedalism, immune systems that kill or cripple us with their defensive response, and -- above all -- a moral sense that glorifies murder in the name of whatever. This last defect may result in our extinction after a relatively short run as a species. If this is not the result of random blunders, then I would fear we are the product of Malevolent Design. The evidence for Malevolent Design is compelling; and it may support the concept of ID if an evil intelligence rules the universe. Are we the play things of a Monster that likes making butterflies so that It can tear their wings off? Jack Smith thomas malloy wrote: > > Jeff Kooistra wrote: > > And Jed Rothwell replied; > > > >What the slurrers against ID fail to admit is the possibility of > > >extra-terrestrial intervention just like a civilisation leaves > > industrial >waste. To rule it out would be unscientific. > > > >He's absolutely right. I pointed this out in a column once--God is > >not a requirement for ID to be under consideration. > > >Wrong, wrong WRONG. I find this argument very annoying, as I have > >said before. It solves nothing. It just pushes the problem off to > >another planet. Somewhere, sometime intelligent life must have > >evolved entirely by natural forces. Since it happened somewhere there > >is no reason to think it did not happen again on earth. > > I've got to admit that your's in an excellent argument Jed. My only > response is that G-d is an energy based phenomena, and the Earth is > physical.