----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Cook To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 8:34 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:vortex mass
Dave-- That a correct assessment IMHO. In addition the idea that the energy associated with the decay of a vortex escapes the system as a high energetic particle is not consistent with observations (that do not include radiation associated with such energetic particles or things). Unless the mass acts like a neutrino with very little interaction with matter--a neutral particle carrying a large angular momentum and high energy that does not react with much at all. I would point out that this idea does not seem to be the case either, since energy seems to be captured in the form of heat from many LENR reactions. I still bet that the vortex spin energy (angular momentum energy) is distributed in small quanta and hence to heat of the surrounding material. The effective mass of the energetic vortex decreases as its spin energy is distributed to the surrounding electronic environment. The rate of the reaction is associated with the decay rate of the vortex. I would say that good instrumentation could pick up this decay rate and its amplitude by the monitoring the creation of local IR radiation. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: David Roberson To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 7:54 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:vortex mass It just demonstrates that there is a lot to learn about physics. LENR is certainly going to open a lot of doors as it becomes better understood. It would have been a surprise to find that nanovortices did not have mass since they obviously have energy. Now someone could make a point that once they fade away they no longer possess energy, but that just implies that the original energy is dispersed somewhere when that occurs. Why did they not realize this in the first place? E=MC^2 has been known for a long time now. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Sent: Tue, Feb 3, 2015 9:53 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:vortex mass https://carnegiescience.edu/news/cosmic_accounting_reveals_missing_light_crisis The extreme ultraviolet light source crisis could indicate LENR is the cause of both Dark Matter and Dark Energy. LENR could be blowing the universe apart with the production of all this XUV over the last few billion years. When the universe was younger, there was little dust present, less LENR, and less dark energy. Science will not find the mechanism for dark matter and dark energy until science understands LENR. On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 2:18 AM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote: see the following for tha anapole theory of dark matter http://news.vanderbilt.edu/2013/06/dark-matter/ See the following for the Bec theory of dark matter http://scitechdaily.com/reinterpretation-cold-dark-matter-bose-einstein-condensate On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 9:24 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote: http://phys.org/news/2015-02-nanovortices.html Nanovortices have mass. This has profound implications for the characterization of cosmic LENR. There is evidence that space is filled with excited hydrogen and helium. These vast areas between galaxies form dusty plasma that produce extreme ultraviolet light and soft x-rays to the tune of 400% above any possible celestial body source. The dark matter inside galaxies behave as if this strange stuff was coherent and exist in a huge galaxy wide BEC. I had conjectured that Cosmic LENR had mass and it was in fact the source of the mass attributed to dark matter. Well here is the experiment that shows that nano vortices which includes LENR associated vertices have mass.