----- Original Message ----- 
From: Bob Cook 
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com 
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 8:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:vortex mass


Dave--

That a correct assessment IMHO. 

In addition the idea that the energy associated with the decay of a vortex 
escapes the system as a high energetic particle is not consistent with 
observations (that do not include radiation associated with such energetic 
particles or things).  Unless the mass acts like a neutrino with very little 
interaction with matter--a neutral particle carrying a large angular momentum 
and high energy that does not react with much at all.  I would point out that 
this idea does not seem to be the case either, since energy seems to be 
captured in the form of heat from many LENR reactions.  

I still bet that the vortex spin energy (angular momentum energy) is 
distributed in small quanta and hence to heat of the surrounding material.  The 
effective mass of the energetic vortex decreases as its spin energy is 
distributed to the surrounding electronic environment.  The rate of the 
reaction is associated with the decay rate of the vortex.  I would say that 
good instrumentation could pick  up this decay rate and its amplitude by the 
monitoring the creation of local IR radiation. 

Bob
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: David Roberson 
  To: vortex-l@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 7:54 AM
  Subject: Re: [Vo]:vortex mass


  It just demonstrates that there is a lot to learn about physics.   LENR is 
certainly going to open a lot of doors as it becomes better understood.

  It would have been a surprise to find that nanovortices did not have mass 
since they obviously have energy.  Now someone could make a point that once 
they fade away they no longer possess energy, but that just implies that the 
original energy is dispersed somewhere when that occurs.  Why did they not 
realize this in the first place?  E=MC^2 has been known for a long time now.

  Dave







  -----Original Message-----
  From: Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com>
  To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
  Sent: Tue, Feb 3, 2015 9:53 am
  Subject: Re: [Vo]:vortex mass


  
https://carnegiescience.edu/news/cosmic_accounting_reveals_missing_light_crisis


  The extreme ultraviolet light source crisis could indicate LENR is the cause 
of both Dark Matter and Dark Energy. LENR could be blowing the universe apart 
with the production of all this XUV over the last few billion years. When the 
universe was younger, there was little dust present, less LENR, and less dark 
energy. Science will not find the mechanism for dark matter and dark energy 
until science understands LENR.


  On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 2:18 AM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote:

    see the following for tha anapole theory of dark matter


    http://news.vanderbilt.edu/2013/06/dark-matter/


    See the following for the Bec theory of dark matter


    
http://scitechdaily.com/reinterpretation-cold-dark-matter-bose-einstein-condensate






    On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 9:24 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote:

      http://phys.org/news/2015-02-nanovortices.html
      Nanovortices have mass. This has profound implications for the 
characterization of cosmic LENR. There is evidence that space is filled with 
excited hydrogen and helium. These vast areas between galaxies form dusty 
plasma that produce extreme ultraviolet light and soft x-rays to the tune of 
400% above any possible celestial body source. The dark matter inside galaxies 
behave as if this strange stuff was coherent and exist in a huge galaxy wide 
BEC.
      I had conjectured that Cosmic LENR had mass and it was in fact  the 
source of the mass attributed to dark matter. Well here is the experiment that 
shows that nano vortices which includes LENR associated vertices have mass. 




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