This is all true.  The only reason I mentioned this, is that MFMP has gone to 
the trouble of adding this beautifully working extension (which is 
non-Parkhomov), they might as well use it to research other deviations once 
some type of replication is done, especially if the design hasn’t been 
solidified yet...

... Perhaps bringing in H2 Gas or D2 Gas (if you’re rich!) would also be 
possible. 

From: Bob Higgins 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 2:55 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Dog Bone Project

Well, this is only sort-of possible.  The capillary nature of the plumbing will 
make it difficult to get much of a vacuum on the portion of the reactor that 
has the bulk of the volume, but it could be possible to reduce the atmosphere 
by an order of magnitude. 

Then you have to deal with the fact that this is yet another departure from 
replication.  We don't really know that the oxygen, nitrogen, and argon are not 
involved in the reaction.  Removing these gasses will certainly alter the 
chemistry of the reaction. Neither Parkhomov nor Rossi removed the atmosphere.  
It might turn out to be something that improves the reaction, but it is another 
departure from replication.


On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 3:48 PM, Mark Jurich <jur...@hotmail.com> wrote:

  FYI:

  MFMP might also want to use this plumbing setup to pump out the headspace at 
the start of the run, pulling 30” of vacuum on it, to remove any 
nitrogen/oxygen/etc.

  Mark Jurich


  From: Bob Higgins 
  Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 1:57 PM
  To: vortex-l@eskimo.com 
  Subject: Re: [Vo]:Dog Bone Project

  I wouldn't call that bizarre, I would call that a sense of self-preservation 
kicking in.   

  Remember that these fellows have come together for only a limited time to run 
these experiments.  It could be that the appropriate plumbing was not readily 
available to hook up the pressure sensor in a way that did not open up a large 
gas volume.  The volume inside the Parkhomov alumina tube is really small.  
Maintaining that small volume is important to generate the high pressures as 
the LiAlH4 decomposes.  To use the long tube (so as to get the compression 
fitting away from the heat), almost all of the volume must be filled with 
alumina rod and then what is connected on the end to the compression fitting 
must also be minimum volume.  Otherwise, the pressure measured would not be 
representative of what it was inside Parkhomov's reactor.  I am working on 
plumbing to make such measurements using 1/16" stainless tubing having a 0.006" 
bore with appropriately small other fittings to minimize the dead gas volume in 
the plumbing.

  What I particularly don't like about just using a cap on the end is that the 
really high pressure is likely to remain even after the reactor cools to room 
temperature.  How do you bleed out the gas to open the tube safely?

  My objective is to measure the pressure over the course of the reaction, have 
a way to capture the product gas in a sample cylinder for analysis, and have a 
way to bleed off any remaining pressure when cool.

  Bob Higgins


  On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 2:41 PM, James Bowery <jabow...@gmail.com> wrote:

    Bizarre that they would think to hide behind an explosion shield -- which 
is rational given prior pressure excursions -- but would not think to hook up 
the pressure sensor.

    On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 1:13 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote:

      Bob Greenyer Obvious • 40 minutes ago 
      The pressure sensor was not connected. this can be seen visually. The 
core was shown in pictures earlier in the evening on Facebook.


      On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 1:58 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint <zeropo...@charter.net> 
wrote:

        Do you believe the sensor, or your eyes?

        -mi



        From: James Bowery [mailto:jabow...@gmail.com] 
        Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 10:42 AM
        To: vortex-l
        Subject: Re: [Vo]:Dog Bone Project



        The pressure release hypothesis is inconsistent with the "PSI" read out 
in the video, which never reaches 1.0.



        On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 12:39 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint 
<zeropo...@charter.net> wrote:

        At 2:29/2:30 into the short segment posted by Craig, it looks like the 
right-side end-plug, or whatever is sticking out that end, blows out.  And I 
use that term specifically since one also sees some hint of a pressure release. 
 Whether that release is at an appropriate level is apparently debatable...
        -mark iverson


        -----Original Message-----
        From: Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson 
[mailto:orionwo...@charter.net]
        Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 9:25 AM
        To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
        Subject: RE: [Vo]:Dog Bone Project

        Good show,

        Thanks, Craig.

        Regards,
        Steven Vincent Johnson
        svjart.orionworks.com
        zazzle.com/orionworks

        > Short segment showing the explosion.

        > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDfRaDY2R_A&feature=youtu.be

        > Craig






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