An interesting idea that I recently pursued might offer some insight into this 
discussion.  A few weeks ago I spoke of my thoughts that the mass of an 
electron might be distributed throughout the field in the form of field energy. 
 This would be established by using Einstein's equation that E=M*C^2 at each 
differential volume of space.

It is well understood in classical fields theory that energy is contained at 
every location where an electric field is present.  I took the equation for the 
volume of a sphere and obtained a differential model only depending upon radius 
since the field is symmetrical in the other spherical angular dimensions.  This 
formula was then multiplied by the volume energy density found in the 
wikipedia(I know...) to obtain a total differential energy density per volume 
element that could then be integrated over the entire volume rather easily.

The results of the integration showed that all of the mass of an electron could 
be distributed within an electric field that existed from a radius of 2.8179 fm 
to infinity.  This also is described within the wikipedia article on electrons 
as the classical electron radius.  In their case, the energy was determined by 
assuming that you forced the charge into that volume instead of from my 
perspective.   I found it interesting that both approaches yeilded the same 
result.

They also pointed out that the assumed radius of a proton is .8775 fm which is 
about 1/3 the radius of the classical electron.  I have been seeking an 
explanation as to why a field has an immediate impact upon the momentum of a 
charged body entering into that region when it takes significant time for the 
particle originating that field to become aware of the new intruder.  If as I 
suspect, the field contains local mass then the question would be answered in a 
reasonable manner.

IIRC quantum mechanics assumes that a photon or many of them act as the carrier 
of this momentum exchange between the two particles.  When the particles are 
far removed it is difficult to understand how this contact is so well directed 
by that method.  I find it easier to believe that a local reaction can handle 
the momentum and energy balances instead.  That was what initiated my search 
and is now placed on hold.

Consider this input as just an alternate way of looking at an unusual problem.

Dave

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson <[email protected]>
To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
Sent: Tue, Feb 10, 2015 11:35 am
Subject: RE: [Vo]:New study confirms the presence of dark matter in the inner 
part of  the Milky Way



FromJones:
 
>Oops typo… should be:  ”Therefore, a logical conclusion isthat dark matter
>is most likely a degenerate from of light matter, meaning that it is mostly
>hydrogen in a different and denser form.”
>BTW - This would be the same species as seen in the many Holmlid/Miley papers,
>which is called ”IRH” or inverted Rydberg hydrogen.
>Holmlid: ”A much denser state exists for hydrogen ... and the bonddistance is
>very small, equal to 2.3 pm. Its density is extremely large  >130 kg /cm3”
>here is one paper:
>http://iopscience.iop.org/1742-6596/244/3/032036/pdf/1742-6596_244_3_032036
 
Frommy layman's POV these explanations sound VERY similar to Dr. Mills' hydrino 
modelwhich allegedly consists of smaller more sense hydrogen atoms that 
apparentlyexist in great abundance below the officially accepted ground state. 
Cansomeone lay out some of the basic differences that might exist between the 
Rydberghydrogen model vs Dr. Mills' hydrino model? Feel free to clarify any 
misinterpretationsI may have made in my previous wording.
 
Itmight be a good idea to point out what the most significant theoretical 
differencemight be between competing models of Dark Matter that apparently 
involve thehydrogen atom.
 
I'mcurious.
 
Regards,
StevenVincent Johnson
svjart.orionworks.com
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