Papp had no product? Au contraire! He had a working atomic submarine and made a solo trip from Europe to Canada in 13 hours. He even wrote a book about it. Anyone read it? Hundreds of Fathoms: Who was Josef Papp?
| | | | | | | | | | | Hundreds of Fathoms: Who was Josef Papp?Josef Papp was a Hungarian-Canadian engineer who in 1966 claimed to have built the worlds fastest submarine with a speed of over 300 MPH. | | | | View on lubbers-line.blogspo... | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | On Friday, February 27, 2015 3:31 PM, Lennart Thornros <lenn...@thornros.com> wrote: Hello Axil, I do not know much about dark matter but I hope your insight is as good when it comes to the general statement about inventors. Unfortunately there is another factor contributing to the problem (I think it is a problem that needs a solution) and that is the factor of secrecy / the patent illusion. I also think like you that Mills has no interest in a product rather a nobel prize.I hear that LENR is proven and that there is no doubt any longer. As I mentioned above I do not have the capacity to evaluate the many theories and how they fit with the experiments. I do believe there is something - call it overunity, which is proven. However, I have no clear feeling for that COP's of 10 or even 5 is achieved. Seems all experiments are coming with several ambiguous test methods. If the COP is low and the difficulties are large and require sophisticated design combined with expensive reactors the breakthrough will not come fast.Lots of clever engineering will be required. The only solution is a more open and organized effort to do this engineering. For inventors a ROssi it might be a catch 22. If he does not give away the knowledge to a group big enough to reach result quickly he will not live long enough to benefit to an enormous reward and if he share the cake might be smaller.I had hoped to see more action from AR's partners toward a product. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros www.StrategicLeadershipSac.com lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899202 Granite Park Court, Lincoln CA 95648 “Productivity is never an accident. It is always the result of a commitment to excellence, intelligent planning, and focused effort.” PJM On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 12:38 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote: Rossi is right, the important thing is the product...all else is chatter. Without a product, you have nothing.Joe Papp had a working over unity energy device a half century ago. The Papp engine was verified, certified, demoed, patented, and whatever else was necessary to give his investors a warm feeling but Papp never placed his invention into production. Why, because Papp could not produce a product and he did not want to produce a product. Producing a product is far harder than producing a prototype. Most genius engineers don’t want to meet all the regulations and requirements necessary, endure all the heartache, feel all the pain necessary to get a product to a buyer.There are few Bill Gates and Steve Jobs in this world. Mills makes a good life tinkering with his prototypes and writing his theories. He cannot produce a product or down deep in his heart he does not want to be bothered with a product and so he joins the other chattereres as Rossi is apt to say.