On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 12:32 AM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> wrote:

> How thick is the region that contains the virtual particle separation
> plane?  Is it 1 nanometer or 1 meter, or what?  If it is vanishingly thin
> then one might expect the separation to approach zero and the number of
> particles that become real to follow likewise.
>

The zone in which Hawking radiation is produced should be proportionate to
area of the soliton, Its thichness should be proportionate to the power
contained in the soliton.

>
> Then again, the amount of energy remaining in the escaped photon must
> become zero if that plane is really at the exact place in space from which
> no escape is possible.  To make it otherwise the initial escaping photon
> must have energy that approaches infinity, which does not make sense.
>

The wormhole connecting the virtual particles would keep the quantum
properties of the pair coordinated. This would inclulde their enegy. It
looks to me that the  ER = EPR conjecture depends on such quantum
communication and coordination.

>
> How much mass escapes into the space surrounding the black hole that is
> carried away by a photon that has the required initial infinite energy?
> Once it has left that region far behind it has very little or none of the
> original mass remaining.
>

In the SPP soliton, the is no infinite energy. In EMF black hole produced
with lasers, the IR wavelength Hawas different from the Hawking radiation
was different from the wavelength of the laser light that produced the
black hole.

>
> There appears to be many unanswered questions concerning this
> evaporization concept as far as I can determine.  Perhaps it is not real?
> After all, the black hole at the center of our galaxy actually appears
> black, at least at radio telescope frequencies.
>

The SPP soliton does not evaperate, It explodes in a Bosenova.

>
> Axil, you speak of entangled photons due to the original virtual pair.  Do
> you consider them remaining entangled even after each becomes translated
> enormously from the original frequency of creation?   The one entering the
> black hole must become far higher in frequency due to the added energy as
> it approaches the singularity while the one that escapes the black hole
> region heads towards zero frequency as it travels outwards.  That becomes a
> vast difference in energy and frequency yet you imply they remain
> entangled.  Please explain how this makes sense?  One becomes a gamma ray
> while the other a low frequency RF photon at best.
>

The energy between the Hawking radiation and the energy inside the soliton
would be kept the same by the wormhole connection between the two virtual
particles. That is how entanglement and coherence developes globally
thoughout the volume where LENR is taking place.

>
> This subject leaves me with more questions than answers.
>

See:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnbJEg9r1o8

In this example, the wormhole is depicted by the vortex tube colored with
the green dye. This is the entanglement conduit that transfers energy and
quantum properties between the virtual particles.

>
> Dave
>
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com>
> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
> Sent: Sun, Jul 19, 2015 10:44 pm
> Subject: [Vo]:Regarding: the ER = EPR conjecture.
>
>   Regarding: the ER = EPR conjecture.
>
>
> https://www.quantamagazine.org/20150424-wormholes-entanglement-firewalls-er-epr/
>
>  Wormholes Untangle a Black Hole Paradox
>
>  The latest theory in Black Hole Physics can inform how the LENR reaction
> works through quantum mechanics and general relativity.
>    Black Holes are entanglement machines. They entangle any matter that
> is around them because they break apart virtual particle pairs into
> complimentary particles. One partner of the virtual particle pair goes
> inside the black hole and the remaining complimentary particle exits the
> boundary of the back hole to the far field. In this way, all of space time
> is connected to the black hole by Hawking radiation. The two parts of the
> virtual particle pair are connected to each other by a worm hole in space
> time. Anything that becomes entangled by the virtual particles outside of
> the Black hole becomes entangled to the Black hole,
>
>  If the SPP soliton is an EMF black hole, then the ER = EPR conjecture is
> also true for the SPP soliton, since the SPP soliton is an EMF black hole.
> Any matter that is exposed to the Hawking radiation becomes entangled with
> the SPP soliton. That matter will be connected to the insides of the SPP
> soliton via wormholes that allow the inside of the SPP and the matter just
> outside it to share energy and their quantum properties. This wormhole
> based entanglement produces the LENR reactions that we see. These include
> energy termalization of high energy nuclear events, stabilization of
> nuclear based radioactive by-products and large numbers of nuclear
> reactions(cluster fusion) that occurs simultaneously as a single reaction
> with all the matter enclosed within the Hawking radiation field of the SPP
> soliton participating in a unitary fusion event.
>
>  All the SPP solitons are also connected to each other through worm holes
> in space time. This allows each SPP to share energy and their quantum
> characteristics with each other to form a Bose condensate.
>

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