Thank You Jones and Ed. On this other note; Sailboats beats stinkers any day:)
Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and enthusiastically act upon, must inevitably come to pass. (PJM) On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 2:23 PM, Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com> wrote: > Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net> wrote: > > >> Lennart- simply because a large amount of energy ia applied to the fuel >> at the start to achieve “ignition.” Yes, it is true that some devices which >> are labeled as LENR also require plasmas which are relatively hot – at >> least they cannot really be called “cold” (as opposed to small scale). >> Mizuno’s glow discharge would be an example. >> > > I agree. > > Perhaps as we learn more, this will turn out to be a false distinction, or > an arbitrary dividing line. But based on current knowledge, I think there > are fundamental differences between something like the Tri Alpha Device and > LENR, and Beene has described the most important difference. > > This is not LENR, although it may be valuable. Still . . . I would hate to > see any kind of plasma fusion succeed now if it meant the end of cold > fusion. No matter how safe or useful the plasma fusion reactor may be, I > expect it will still be expensive. I think cold fusion has many intrinsic > advantages, so it would be a shame to abandon it. > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > > To change the subject, here is something I have been thinking about for > some time. > > "It would be a shame to abandon it." You can say the same about solar > energy. (Or wind, gas or coal I suppose.) If cold fusion starts to succeed, > people who have devoted years of effort to solar will surely feel regret. > They will say: "Let's hang on to this! There might still be a niche market > for solar!" No, sorry, probably not. > > Those people will resemble sailing ship captains in the late 19th century, > who saw the end of their era approaching. They understood, of course, that > steamships were much better in many ways. But naturally they still had > regrets, and a feeling of nostalgia. Around 1935 when my father was in the > merchant marine on a freighter in the Atlantic out of New York, they came > upon a full rigged sailing ship, probably one of the last. The captain of > the steamship hailed the sailing ship, and then slowed down and down, and > steered a course slowly around it, twice. Then he finally pulled out and > headed to the destination. A romantic gesture. My father said the captain > seemed sad, and lost in memories of his youth. I suppose he was in his 50s > and remembered the late 19th century when the harbors at New York still had > many sailing ships. See: > > http://www.shorpy.com/files/images/SHORPY_4a09256a.preview.jpg > > (I expect these had steel hulls and auxiliary engines. They were still in > use because it was cheaper -- you did not need coal.) > > People usually invest a measure of emotion and love in their jobs and in > the tools they use. You can't help it. I recall a bumper sticker on a big > truck on the highway, "A man and his truck -- it's a beautiful thing." > > - Jed > >
