OK, if we assume that Hawking is correct and that black holes loose mass by radiation, why does this not eventually lead to the black hole having less mass than is required in order to remain a black hole?
I suppose that if it is assumed that the black hole only contains energy once formed the effective mass would not be relevant from that time forth. At least until it evaporates completely. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Sent: Mon, Feb 1, 2016 12:09 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:On Arxiv censorship Black holes loss mass due to Hawking's radiation. Multi particle entanglement is required to produce this process. But quantum mechanics only allows single particle entanglement. As they say, entanglement is monogamous. http://quantumfrontiers.com/2013/06/07/entanglement-wormholes/ Due to Hawking's radiation and wormholes, black holes are the only exception. The mechanism for cluster fusion in LENR is evidence that black hole processes are at play in LENR. On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 11:48 AM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> wrote: A thought. Before the star becomes a black hole it has plenty of mass located at the center that can be measured just like in the case of our sun. Why would this original mass be converted into energy in such a manner as to leave the entire black hole empty of all mass? At the very least I would expect the original matter to be retained. Would it be interesting to be an observer at the very moment that the mass of a star becomes adequate to form a black hole? I can visualize that the process is not smoothly carried out throughout the system. Perhaps the black surface begins at one location and then proceeds to engulf the entire structure in an interesting sequence. If true, one might expect the rotation of the star to keep certain surfaces "normal" for an extended time period while others turn "black". The above thought experiment brings to mind an interesting possibility. Can a black hole have a non black entry and exit path especially during its formation process? Dave -----Original Message----- From: Eric Walker <eric.wal...@gmail.com> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Sent: Sun, Jan 31, 2016 11:44 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:On Arxiv censorship On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 5:40 PM, <mix...@bigpond.com> wrote: BTW, as I have said before, black holes are empty. All matter is converted to energy at or before the event horizon, and circulates as EM energy at the event horizon, warping spacetime into a circle. ;) What kind of energy? The notion of a singularity at the center of a black hole seems like a leap of logic to me. I wonder whether it's simply the case that the mathematical model (from general relativity) is oversimplifying things close to the black hole, resulting in the counterintuitive mathematical result. Eric
