Jed,
Obviously, each Vort participant has to decide for themselves whether they should apologize to Mr. Krivit. Having been a former NET BoD member, I had my share of interactions with Mr. Krivit. My experience with Mr. Krivit was that he can be tireless and dedicated in his desire to get to the truth of the matter. (We worked, in private, on a couple of interesting projects together, and those interactions were for the most part good productive experiences for me.) But I also came to the personal opinion that what one man's perceives as the truth is not necessarily the truth as perceived by another man or woman. I would say the two of us eventually came to loggerheads when I essentially critiqued what I personally felt was Krivit's inexperienced responses to a more experienced radio show host's questions out in Vortex. This was over some disputed McKubre data. As a NET BoD member at the time it was none of my business to have critiqued Krivit's job performance in such a public manner, out in Vortex. That was my fault. Krivit was quite angry with me. After I unloaded what I really wanted to say to Krivit in private, it became pretty obvious that I was not a comfortable fit in his NET organization. I felt extremely relieved to have been asked to leave. I wasted no time in fulfilling his request. I think we came to loggerheads over the whole McKubre M4 issue. I never felt comfortable with Krivit's analysis (actually, I would say: Krivit's opinion) on the matter. To be blunt, I didn't think Krivit was sufficiently qualified to have come down as hard on as hard on McKubre in the manner that he did. I think it seriously hurt Krivit's reputation and standing within the CF community - significantly. In regards to Rossi-Gate, (I love that term, Jones!) I wished Mr. Krivit would have focused primarily on the actual calorimetric data (or the lack of it) alone to prove his points... his suspicions, if you will. But as far as I can tell that's not how Krivit has chosen to conduct his investigations on the Rossi-Gate affair. It's my understanding Krivit came away with a bad feeling about Rossi pretty much after his initial personal encounter. I would speculate Krivit came away feeling that Rossi was attempting to manipulate him into becoming an advocate for his holy cause. I can certainly understand why Krivit came away with bad feelings and suspicions of Rossi, just as you had your own doubts after communicating with him from the very beginning. I remains my opinion that Krivit allowed his suspicions of Rossi's eccentric behaviors... perhaps suspicions that Rossi was trying to manipulate him, to overwhelm the more important task of simply focusing on the calorimetric data Rossi claimed he had accumulated. IMO, there exists TOO MUCH EMOTIONAL KRIVIT BAGAGE for me to trust that Krivit is capable of writing objective reporting on Rossi. Carrying around TOO MUCH EMOTIONAL BAGGAGE is a bad combination to be saddled with if one wants to play the role of being an objective investigative journalist. Again, I feel no need to apologize to Mr. Krivit. I wish him well in his endeavors. But to apologize? Actually it would feel tantamount to enabling, or endorsing Krivit's personal take on the Rossi-Gate affair - which I most certainly don't. Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson orionworks.com http://www.zazzle.com/orionworks http://stevenvincentjohnson.bandcamp.com/ From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 7:53 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Cc: Steve Krivit Subject: Re: [Vo]:We owe Steven Kirvit an applogy I do not know if we should apologize to Steve, but I certainly agree he was right and I was wrong. I have been meaning to tell him. To be mealymouthed I wasn't so wrong as noncommittal. I think I said -- I hope I said -- I cannot judge whether Rossi is fraud or not, and it is not my business to do that, because I am not a policeman. His tests looked sloppy to me, especially when he almost blew up the people from NASA. My first impression of Rossi was the time he invited me and then uninvited me when I said I would measure the temperature and flow rates with my own instruments. That gave me a bad impression. - Jed