FWIW - the only strong evidence of muons in LENR comes from laser irradiation. (Holmlid, Winterberg)

Laser irradiation produces so much more power in a short time frame than electrolysis, that the two are not comparable. Neither are related to biological transmutation (Kervran). It is a mistake to think that any of these are related.

Thus both viewpoints expressed in this thread can be correct - cold fusion itself produces no muons, while laser irradiation of dense hydrogen does produce muons. The transmutation of oxygen to sulfur is different and goes back 150 years - well before Kervran in fact - see:

http://bionutrient.org/library/reviews/biological-transmutations

There is no evidence of muons in biological transmutation.

Thus we have three very distinct classes of LENR already in this one situation, neglecting Ni-H and they all have significant proof:

1) biological (Kervran et al);

2) cold fusion (P&F); and

3) laser irradiation of dense hydrogen (Holmlid).

I think it is a big mistake to try to explain these as being part of any single theory. However, there are connections between cold fusion of palladium/deuterium to nickel/hydrogen. Once a laser is employed however - all bets are off, even if the Letts/Cravens effect of low-powered lasers is closer to cold fusion than to Holmlid.


Axil Axil wrote:
Here is the link to the diagram that did not appear in the post above:

https://a.disquscdn.com/get?url=http%3A%2F%2Fpages.csam.montclair.edu%2F%7Ekowalski%2Fcf%2F341fig1.jpg&key=y8LKL4Hf4Ud13sQke0JURw&w=600&h=296


    The so called Erzion phenomenon was discovered in a series of
    electrolytic experiments marked by unexplained changes in a pool
    of cooling water outside of the catalytic cell. After 40 minutes
    of electrolytic cell operation, water on the tungsten anode side
    of the cooling vessel started losing its transparency.

    https://youtu.be/MymFcb9U1Ck

    Strange that in this experiment showing the production of sulfur,
    the activity was at the anode. Could the Erzion actually be muons?

    Water on the stainless steel cathode of the pool of cooling water
    remained transparent, at the same 40 C temperature. A sample of
    bubbly water, removed from the anode side, was tested for induced
    gamma radioactivity. No such radioactivity was found in it; the
    sample became transparent after 24 hours. Attempts to reproduce
    the long-term loss of cooling water transparency with other
    electrolytes, and under different electrical discharge conditions,
    were not successful. But the effect was highly reproducible when
    experimenting with the tungsten-anode electrolytic cell and the 7
    M KF electrolyte containing 50% of heavy water.



    That cooling water on the outside of the electrolytic cell's glass
    reactor shell at the right side (see Figure 1) is close to the
    anode while cooling water on the left side is close to the
    cathode. The disappearance of bubbles, after the electrolysis, was
    very slow (half-life of about 10 hrs). Attempts to explain the
    phenomenon in terms of cavitation, and other ultrasonic effects,
    were not successful. The only satisfactory explanation was
    possible within the framework of the erzion model. Authors believe
    that bubbles are produced through the action of neutral Erzions.

    The Erzons phenomenon behavior is consistent with the magnetic
    based Exotic Neutral Particle(ENP). To begin with, the glass
    container is transparent to the magnetically based ENPs both
    optically and magnetically. The LENR reaction that keeps the ENPs
    viable produce the vapor that forms the water bubbles. The ENPs
    become energetically self sufficient in the water of the cooling
    pool where the ENPs remain viable for hours.

    If the Erzons phenomenon is produced by magnetically based ENPs,
    an iron plate placed just on the outside of the glass wall
    adjacent to the anode would prevent the ENPs from exiting the
    glass electrolytic cell. With the ENPs blocked from travel, bubble
    production would be eliminated.

    The Erzons could be some form of exotic hydrogen such as ultra
    dense hydrogen or maybe micro ball lightning. The hydrogen
    bubbles could be the product of a muon catalyzed reaction with water.

    Whatever is going on at the anode, it looks like it is
    happening in a reliable way. Experimenters might find some way to
    track this mischugenon process down. I for one would love to read
    about the detective process that makes the identification of this
    mischugenon process down in Russ's blog.

    Jed Rothwellwrote:

        Axil Axil <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            When LENR really gets going full blast and gigawatts are
            generated in cars, trains, planes, boats, houses,
            everywhere in everything, the muon loading will get into
            the terawatt levels. Muons flowing down the streets will
            be so thick, you can cut them with a knife. And muons are
            a bitch to shield against.


        Cold fusion has been run at over 100 W for three months,
        continuously. I believe that if there were dangerous levels of
        muons, as you describe, they would have caused harm, and they
        would have been detected. There is no sign of them. People
        worked with these unshielded cells every day. So I expect you
        are wrong about this. No theorist has said anything about
        muons being produced by cold fusion in any paper I know of,
        and I know of all the papers. I have searched for the term
        "muon" and found nothing, other than the well-known 1989
        discussions of muon-catalyzed fusion.

        - Jed




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