Russ—

You say “data speak to me”.   I agree with that idea.  The high energy electron 
scattering experiments  on protons and neutrons that W. Stubbs has evaluated 
are pretty good evidence for constituents of those particles  not being primary 
particles of fractional charges, quarks.  I have been aware of the idea of 
quarks since the early 1970’s, and my skepticism of their reality has only 
increased over time.   Philippe Hatt’s predictions of the magnetic moments and 
mass of protons and neutrons is consistent with measured properties of these 
particles.  His model considers positrons and electrons make up these particles 
without the quark soup of the Standard Model.  His predictions go beyond the 
accuracy of current experiments and, thus allow for better model confirmation 
in the future.

Getting the Nobel prize for a nifty  empirical model is note worthy.   That  
quark model with all its arbitrary constants and assumptions contradicts the 
concept of reality from my viewpoint.  

I tend to believe that the electron charge  associated with that primary 
particle is real , since I have measured that charge myself to 4 or 5 
significant figures.  However, there is no reasonable model of reality linking 
the assumed fractional charge of a quark to the measured unit charge of an 
electron or positron.  

Bob


From: Russ George
Sent: Friday, January 6, 2017 6:29 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Quark soup life is like a box of chocolates, you never 
knowwhat you are going to get ;)

Well my ‘ready kilowatt cold fusion’ system is near to hand, and not being such 
a nervous pussy as to worry about being grabbed that I substitute LENR for the 
term ‘cold fusion’ that’s the better moniker… even with President Trump amongst 
us. Of course you know that the only real way to understand science is to 
adhere to the admonition “data speak to me.” That speaking data always confides 
to anyone listening about IP.  I am far less of a mercurial professor than 
Martin Fleischman, but the older I get the more I am beginning to understand 
his POV.  

From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 6, 2017 12:13 PM
To: vortex-l
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Quark soup life is like a box of chocolates, you never know 
what you are going to get ;)

Russ,

I am excited to hear that you are on the verge of developing a high powered 
LERN system that might show the generation of muons as a reaction byproduct. If 
it is not an imposition on your good nature, could you try to detect and verify 
these muons by placing a sheet of silver or other metal over the geiger counter 
as you have described doing in previous posts. A report back to vortex about 
the results of such a test would be great if the report does not violate your 
IP position.

Also wishing huge well deserved success in this and all you do. 
Axil

On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 2:48 PM, Russ George <russ.geo...@gmail.com> wrote:
Peter,
 
You are always most welcome to echo my blog posts. The New Year has begun and 
after being in hibernation for the past month or so I am beginning to be 
reinvigorated. There is too much to do to deliver several ocean pasture 
restorations this year and get my danged ‘dusty plasma ready kilowatt’ heater 
into production. Only a few bugs left to squash. By the way you’ll be 
interested to know that hot gas phase NiD, aka Quarks, make 4He as do similar 
AgD devices, aka Millquarks!
 
Cold Fusing as always

 
Russ George
Atom-ecology.russgeorge.net
 
 
 
From: Peter Gluck [mailto:peter.gl...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 6, 2017 11:42 AM
To: VORTEX
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Quark soup life is like a box of chocolates, you never know 
what you are going to get ;)
 
it is my pleasure to sif=gnal your fine paper.
Bob is my good friend too like you, no problem if you have different opinions.
best wishes,
Peter
 
On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 8:40 PM, Russ George <russ.geo...@gmail.com> wrote:
Bob Cook and I disagree about the reality of ‘quarks’, having had the good 
fortune of being tutored many times on quarks by a dear friend who won the 
Nobel Prize for their discovery I favour their existence, Bob does not. They 
are very convenient in understanding the ecology of cold fusion. Now whether 
nucleons exist or not and where is another question. Here’s my post on the 
topic http://atom-ecology.russgeorge.net/2017/01/05/quark-gazpacho/ 



 
-- 
Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com


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